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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Always, give with one hand to get you in the door and take it back off you with the other once their killed. This is where I wonder how the NSAI or standards authority calibrate their weigh and grading machines.

    And when you question it you will get the usual "well they won't put on anymore weight now". I'll be honest I have a negative opinion of them and it's negative for a reason because we have got shafted more times between lambs and cattle, usually alway when their tight and want stock and promise you the sun moon and stars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,639 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    I can't take any credit, the aul lads does the buying and selling. To be fair to him he has a decent eye for stores, they usually always turn into good cattle but the do get well looked after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Were they getting much feeding since they went overage. A d were they being fed for long.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    1 month grass, the good silage in the shed for a month



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Bucket of meal between a pen of 6 probally 5 times a week only the last month since in the shed, very little anyway we don't like meal feeding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You probably did well out of them so. I was doing the sums on a few I left go last week they were in the shed on 5 kgs of maize

    After doing the sums I reckon I only broke even. At that the Friesian's graded which they would not have 8 weeks ago while you would have expected the efficiency of the coloured cattle to compensate for the cost.

    If your cattle were underage two months ago and you got 20c QA have you been paid for keeping them. Disallow the heifer that probably went for breeding

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    More than paid for keeping them, they were on a 20 acre field of clover and grass that hasn't seen a bag of manure in over 8 years and grass growth wasn't a problem with how mild it was, then a bale would do 6 of them roughly 5/6 days for the month or so they were in, so really only cost give or take the price of the bales, meal was negligible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭DBK1


    2 months ago the base price was 25-30cent less than it is this week. He was more than paid for keeping them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭HHH


    Any quotes this morning for this week? I heard Nenagh had no numbers at all last week. Couldn't fill orders.

    Factories killing 450 - 500kg live weight cattle that aren't fit to make up the numbers. Anything instead of raising the price!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Two months ago the base price was 4.60/4.65, I got 4.60 last week. I got 4.7/ kg the last week in September. Prices only dropped after that. I still got 4.65 first week in October they were booked in a week previous. Lowest it went to was to 4.5/ kg and that was mid late October

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Everything I have will be slaughtered by late September next year. Waste of time feeding cattle to get the same price end of November.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Someone robbed you last week so, I got €4.75 last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭locha


    Bullocks or heifers and was that base?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    4.55 flat for a few overage Fr bullocks. The usual o-,p+ mix.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Depends on where you are. I had to book them in as we were going abroad for a few days and both my lads were away as well. Getting a lad to feed cattle and did not want to have him messing with 10+ finishing cattle what left are grand and the stores only need silage

    Had rang another agent the week before travelling was going to cost 27/ head ( 8 cent/ kg) with him and they would be loaded at 4-5pm evening before. He was 4.85 flat for coloured cattle but was only 4.5/4.3 flat for O /Pand 4.3. Both the Friesian's graded O= and I knew they would one was over and one under 30 months 4.5&4.62. Dropped them in myself.

    Waited until Monday to book them in. Both local places were the same. Guessed they would strengthen a bit but there is times you need to move on.

    Even at 4.75 it would not have been worth keeping them as there is at least one P in the lads to go yet

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭HHH


    @ DBK1 Also in what area of the country was that?


    I got caught with cattle this year that were far too strong to put in as stores for next year and the best of them were caught with movements so couldn't go to the mart. As I mentioned above I have about 25 to sell, HE, AA, CHX & LMXs ranging from 630kgs to 750kgs. Oldest lad won't be 30 months until 28th December, most of the rest are 22-26 months old. If I got €4.75 i'd sell them all but it's hard to get locally



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭DBK1


    €4.75 base price for heifers in Ballinasloe last week. Kilbeggan are at the same price. Bullocks would be 5 cent less.

    Procurement managers are ringing around looking for stock at the moment.



  • Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The work involved is a hidden cost. Poor old weather this autumn/ early winter as in a lot of wind and rain. Cattle could be left out normal years but would be poaching the ground this year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Any indications for the coming week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    €4.95 for u grade bulls. Not sure about anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭epfff


    485 heifers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭jfh


    don't sell many to the factory, usually sell stores but very disappointed with kill out this year v last year. i keep the progeny from one of my best cows , Nov 21 base was 4:15, he was 500kg cold so came into 2265>

    This year, base was 4:80, only 395kg dead weight, came in 2000. that's a pretty sizeable difference in weight. i know the drought in the summer affected grass growth & the last month he was pretty miserable, most of his energy was going on keeping warm, when i did house it was probably too late, he didn't take to the baled silage, so poor management on my behalf or is this a common feature this backend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭somewhat disappointed


    Have Hereford and Angus Bullocks which will be on 4th Movementat at time of sale should I feed on and hope to Slaughter? Or try sell in mart but hard to see that any one will be ìnterested in buying them. They are in between stock to me Slaughter seems to be best option. Value your advice/opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Well beef is on the up, and head kill is getting smaller, possibly along with killing younger cattle, leaveing less tonnage of beef.

    Earlier this year the same happened and extra movements were forgotten about due to shortage.

    I wouldnt be overly frightened of extra movements this spring again, on factory ready cattle, providing you haggle that bit extra with your agent.

    Feeding or selling now itself, depends on your own circumstances.

    But I myself have bought extra movement cattle and won't be backed down easily to loose QA payment, when I'm killing this comeing spring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Obviously two very different animals. You didn’t lose 100kg because of a couple of weeks drought or a wet month of October. He was a poorer thriver throughout the year. Did other cattle thrive bad as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,677 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    What age are they. If they are approaching 30 months feed 5-6kgs of maize and slaughter them in 8-10 weeks time. If the are younger put them back to grass and slaughter net June/July.

    Kill out has been horrific this year. There was no flush of grass at any stage. Always seemed to be chasing my tail to have grass ahead of cattle. The drought was only part of the reason. By the time it ended while we got what seemed nice growth the feeding was gone out of the grass. Last Autumn was dry with huge flushes of grass.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭jfh


    Same breeding & probably didn't give enough meal, only 3-4kg.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Killout as good and even better as last year in this area. Its the soil type that's let you down on that occasion.



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