Kia EV6

Worst case scenario (Motorway + national roads on a trip to Tyrone in the cold): 350km (22kWh / 100km). Full motorway journeys edge closer to 23kWh to 24 kWh / 100km.

Best case scenario (town or 80km/h road in summer): 450km - 500km (16kwh to 17kWh / 100km)

Overage efficiency since Jan 22 (11 months, 8500km) is 19.7kWh/100km (390km range) but that will get worse after some December driving, I expect my average will be closer to 21kWh/100km after a full year (and all the seasons) of ownership

You get a tow added or change colour, that's it. There is no real optionality with the EV6. Even in the UK Rear heated seats tied to a specific trim line.

At the original 55k price that's all good. Not at 65k when I only need the heated seats and the price diff is now 10k :)

...and our current cheaper e-Niro has it which makes it very hard to swallow not to have it anymore.

Model Y at 53k and Ioniq5 at 54k both have heated rear seats too. Trouble is the wife likes the EV6 a lot more than the other 2.

I'm sure for some it will be more useful than heated rear seats, especially this winter. The option value is quiet high.

Even if these figures are anywhere near correct, they don't make a difference to us as:

• Domestic: We use a fraction of that in a day here in Ireland
• Abroad: When on a EU road trip, the Tesla wins shoulders down due to the supercharger network they have (we did a 6500km road trip in the EU with the e-Niro involving 10 countries and it required a lot more planning - and going out of our way - than it would have required with a Tesla). Opening up the supercharger network for non-Teslas is still not widely rolled out and they will only open up the not-so-busy chargers anyways / reportedly. Approx 60-70kms of extra range doesn't justify losing unrestricted access to the best charging network in the EU for me.

V2L: I only need 220V power inside the car, not outside the car. So would need to keep using the cigar lighter => 220V adapter I bought for the laptop anyways. I didn't look into this topic further though as I have it resolved already and it works great. I feel no need for improvement in this area.

There is a three pin plug inside the car as well under the middle rear seat. Look, it's Okay to just want a Tesla.

Had to bring the EV6 back to the dealers today to have them assess the cracked headlights issue I was talking about a few pages back. Hopefully they acknowledge responsibility and replace them under warranty, won't know for a couple of days.

While I was there took a photo of the price list titled "January 2023 pricelist".

It means I would have paid €9,000 more for my earth had I waited. Eye watering prices imo.

Jeez,the price of the niro ev too?🙈

Sounds like some wild west shady tactics so

Kinda like getting planning permission then???🤔

There is a drop off in initial charge rate in winter compared to summer (I'm basing my info here off my semi-regular drive from Tyrone to City North Ionity (120km or so), so adequate time for the battery to heat up a bit due to driving, I'm arriving with between 10% to 30% on these journey's (>30% means i'll easily get home)

Summer: Charging usually starts at around 120kW, rising to 170kW within 5 mins and peaking at just over 220kW for a short while.

Winter: Charging usually starts around 50kW, then it jumps to 120kW, then 170kW (haven't seen higher as there's probably too much SoC to see the 200kW+ peaks)

I don't have an ODBC dongle attached to prove this, but i suspect these jumps in power are aligned with the battery temp reaching 15 degrees / 20 degrees / 25 degrees (based on some online videos I've seen showing this pattern)

In theory the battery pre-conditioning would enable our charging to start closer to the 170kW or maybe 220kW rates (5 min at that rate could be 100km of range added).

Regarding software updates, you might have noticed my previous comments/rants as I try to chase this up (between dealers, Kia twitter, Kia customer service) and all I can gather (from Kia customer service) is there are 2 dealer updates (one to the BMS and one to another system that I don't need to know the details about) and 1 Navigation update (we can to that ourselves). I've 1 dealer update to the BMS done and the Navigation update (20221004) done but I don't have the battery pre-conditioning feature yet. I believe it will come to 2022 models as it's available on some European Ioniq 5's, but the Kia dealers are really struggling to find these updates on their system (I'm trying to get Kia Customer service to engage with my dealer to give them the information directly, rather than me passing it on second hand)

60k for Kia? What are they thinking.