Who thinks Sean Quinn is a great businessman now?

The unwritten rule of boards: you can duck out of a good thread early or stick around until it descends into another SF vs FG bunfight

Would have said more a me feiner.

Though the Shinners on here are very rattled for some reason.

Well, I am not a prominent FG die-hard, but I stand over every single word I have posted on this issue,

There is an issue in the border region, Dukes was right to call it out (albeit a bit clumsily), the permanently offended took offence, Heather is protecting her votes, Matt Carthy is foaming at the mouth, but people in the border region need to take a good long hard look at themselves and their neighbours and ask how and why so many of them marched in support of Quinn over the last decade or so and tolerated and allowed the public intimidatory warnings.

Sean Quinn's hatred of Kevin Lunney has left a huge question mark over him and regardless of what he says it will be there long after he departs this life.

Dukes, or Quinn...?

The bit I can't understand is why does he still own 1 to 2 billion in debt while all his business were taken over by IRBC?

Did these companies not make enough money since the take over to clear his debts? Or how are these debts still outstanding?

Sean Quinn went bankrupt in 2011

The debt with the company's bondholders seems to be on track to be paid off, as indicated by the documentary.

Dukes. The reference to Tipperary was blatantly on purpose. He had his fill of the mountain folk up in Quinn territory, he absolutely stuck it to them last night. I didn’t hear his “apology” but I dare say he was grinning while he made it.

Would the US bondholders have been anything to do with Anglo or would quinn have had debts with them directly? Were they something to do with the CFDs I wonder?

Was a night behind and just watched episode 3. What little admiration I might have had for Quinn's business success was completely eroded by what was presented in episode 3. He is a contemptible individual, blinded by his own greed and hubris. The comments about Lunney were particularly despicable. Asking the question as to what Lunney may have done since his takeover of the company that would have contributed to his abduction and torture. Flagrant victim blaming delivered without an ounce of empathy. Quinn lashing out at the 'backstabbers' as he and his wife called them while being so ignorant of the irony of his backstabbing of Lunney, who he publicly lauded when all was going well at Quinn group.

Sean Quinn is a sore loser at best, and a ruthless dictator at worst. He had the power to stop all of the violence and intimidation, all he had to do was walk away from the business after he wrecked it. Admit his mistakes, pay his debts and move on with his reputation intact. But no, he believed that business was his god given right and he held rallies to whip up a frenzy. He didn't give a fiddlers if that meant that the local knuckle draggers and Provos would latch onto the cause to make some easy money. After the peace process there were plenty of guns / muscle for hire loitering around looking for work. Quinn may or may not have ordered or funded any of the violence but he is complicit. Had he let the business be sold off there would have been zero trouble. The carry on with the QBRC by him was the perfect example of his bad judgement and arrogance. Lunney, O'Reilly and McCaffery rescued the business and kept the locals employed. They even offered an olive branch to the bould Sean and give him a advisory position but that wasn't enough. It was total control or nothing. If Sean had taken that offer I guarantee you Lunney would never have suffered they way he did.

The priest bashing is interesting by the Quinns. The church are hardly bastions of integrity but everything that priest said hit the nail on the head. Never once named Sean Quinn. Congregation applauding. The truth hurts and the Quinn's just couldn't take it. The wife in particular is twisted from bitterness. The crocodile tears at the end were grim, he's only sorry because he got caught.

As for the Alan Dukes comments, they were crass but not totally wide of the mark. It's a sideshow to the main event. He'd have been better off keeping his powder dry and being more politically correct in his delivery. Essentially Quinn became a mafioso of sorts in the border region and given the history of the troubles there were more than enough hired goons floating about to facilitate intimidation. There's plenty of similar goons active in Duke's old stomping grounds in the greater Dublin area also so they're not confined to the border lands.

Overall, it was a well made and balanced documentary. Quinn couldn't control the narrative so he threw his toys out of the pram.

There are Judgements of 88m against each of the kids and I cannot remember any repayment schedule being formulated, guess they will be registered against any assets these "kids" have such as properties and revert to the State on their passing.

How QuinnBet was financed is anyone's guess.

Not aware of any allowance for Daddy and the Missus or for that matter - allowances for the kids, for what - failure, eating 100k cake.

With luck the stroke around Daddy's house will be reversed on his passing.

The Court and Reciver spent a lot of money chasing overseas assets, cannot see them missing stuff in Switzerland and India.

The thing Sean didn't grasp was the concept of "leverage". Gambling on CFDs you can lose far more than your stake.

Ironically he and/or his kids now run a betting company... they must be laughing up their sleeves at us. But Seanie could still get all moist-eyed for the camera and dish out the beal bocht.

He owed 4 billion, the Americans got most of their 1 billion +, he paid 400 million and owed the rest, 2 billion