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Dozer1 · 17-11-2022 04:08PM

it was more he was in one of the BETTER farms really that I added it here, just highlights the limited chance sucklers have of being profitable, thats quite a few that were on it that have sold up over the years

Cavanjack · 17-11-2022 05:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886436#Comment_119886436

A neighbour dairy man sold Angus heifers in the mart last week 18-21 months old. He done them well and they averaged 530kg. He got €1300 for them. How can a suckler cow compete with that. A Charolais store wouldn’t be much dearer after sucking a cow for a year.

Silverdream · 17-11-2022 05:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119885805#Comment_119885805

Looking at the pictures on DD they look very middle of the road stuff.

jfh · 17-11-2022 06:15PM

I feel a bit inadequate here! I think there some really nice milky stock there. Perfect hassle free for the working man

Jb1989 · 17-11-2022 06:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886901#Comment_119886901

I agree. Great arses on them calves, muscle there somewhere. A plain cow with milk can produce a super calf with a decent bull. Doesn't always take big horses of Charlie's.

Bass Reeves · 17-11-2022 07:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886827#Comment_119886827

A lot of them better farms are carrying stick to finish at 20-24 months. Ideal type of stock for that. Calves early, plenty of milk in the cows, bull calves 400 going into the shed and 350 for heifers. Finish any heifers off grass at 18-20 that are not sold for breeding.

Depending on system finish the bulls at 16 months as bulls or at steers at 22-24 months. You can do this system on good quality land ya of you are west of the Shannon you need a different animal.

Grueller · 17-11-2022 07:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886925#Comment_119886925

I agree too. Some of those cows are ripe for a blue bull to bring U grades all day long. The black limo cow would do it every calf.

Limestone Cowboy · 18-11-2022 03:22PM

I wouldn't comment on anyone's stock but I see it here there's a big difference between the top end and the middle of the road calves. Sold a few cows this week that I sold heifer calves roughly 300kg off a few weeks ago for roughly 700. All their comrades were 900+ at the same weight off the cows with no meal. Same cows had the same plainish calves year in year out and was the same story. Averaged 1400 for the couple of cows. Better in my pocket than feeding them to produce more of the same I think.

GNWoodd · 18-11-2022 07:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119886323#Comment_119886323

What ?

There is nothing wrong with those cattle

SuperTortoise · 18-11-2022 07:36PM

Anyone watching heifer sale in balla?

Niallers87 · 18-11-2022 11:44PM

I was watching it alright, some good stuff sold there, some heifers only bulled in September, wouldn’t suit every man’s system

Barron lad · 21-11-2022 12:47PM

I suppose beauty is in

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891399#Comment_119891399

I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They wouldn't be the sort of stock I would be buying as I am trying to breed cattle for the export market and they wouldn't suit that.

RockOrBog · 22-11-2022 09:58AM

I see a lot of cattle trucks around the roads here with the last few days, either the price of weanlings has gone up a bit or else people are sick of looking at them.

fulldnod · 22-11-2022 10:13AM

I was in the mart yesterday, young Angus cattle were on fire, 200kg AA bulls making 2.80/kg

Hard Knocks · 22-11-2022 10:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119905735#Comment_119905735

Even at that price they’re not leaving much for the rearer

bosallagh88 · 23-11-2022 09:35AM

Not from the area but is castleisland starting to get bigger shows of cattle?

SuperTortoise · 23-11-2022 09:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119905735#Comment_119905735

Out of dairy?

If they were out of beef stock I wouldn't say they were on fire.

With farming inflation running at 40%+ they would want to be making 3.5/kg to leave anything at all to the fella rearing them.

White Clover · 23-11-2022 10:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910186#Comment_119910186

The suckler farmer needs weight when selling. Selling light calves is never going to add up. The less moves an animal has the more profitable they should be.

dohc turbo2 · 23-11-2022 07:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910105#Comment_119910105

Castleisland flying since new manager,

23-11-2022 09:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119912836#Comment_119912836

Also poaching Adam from mauty was a big help. There's great cutting in himself and Neilus.

Dozer1 · 23-11-2022 10:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119913297#Comment_119913297

He'd love that:-) ..but absolutely true he's hoovering up a lot of cattle for them

tellmeabit · 24-11-2022 09:51AM

Sold a few bulls lastnight. 3 ch and a sim off ch

Date:23/11/2022

310KG @ €820.00 2.65€/kg

Breed: CHX

DOB: 07/04/2022

345KG @ €970.00 2.81€/kg

Sex: M

Breed: SIX

DOB: 05/04/2022

365KG @ €960.00 2.63€/kg

DOB: 10/03/2022

325KG @ €910.00 2.80€/kg

DOB: 04/04/2022

Anto_Meath · 24-11-2022 10:14AM

@tellmeabit good enough prices and weights.

Friend of mine bought a SM bull to breed his own replacement, he has some lovely heifers but he is very disappointed in the prices he got for the Smx bull weanlings he sold.They would have been out of Chx cows and he said they stood in with his Chx bull weanlings but generally made 20 - 30 cent a kgs less. His SM bull is now in the shed for fattening and will not be going out with the cows next spring.

tanko · 24-11-2022 10:31AM

What was he expecting? He can’t have his cake and eat it, he has his lovely heifers to improve the quality of his cows in the future hopefully. I started using Sim bulls a few years back to put some milk back into the Lim cows here and sold the males as stores. They made much the same as the Lim stores and killed out well after, they weighed very well but lacked a bit of conformation naturally enough. Expecting Sims to make the same as CH is a bit silly imo. Going out to buy replacements isn’t simple either, nice heifers aren’t cheap, saw a nice Sim x CH 450kgs make €1350 yesterday. At least if you breed your own replacements you should have a better idea what you’ll end up with.

Anto_Meath · 24-11-2022 11:22AM

Ah I know, but he is one of those type of lads who thinks his weanlings are worth more than anyone else, he has been know to bring all home from the mart if he isn't getting top money for them. I said it to him when he bought the bull that he would be back money on his weanlings as I see it big time with anything I kill, SMx kill out poor compared to my LMx, but he didn't believe it until he seen it with his own eyes.

You are right about breeding your own replacement, it cant be beaten. I wouldnt be buying to many replacement springers and I wouldn't be giving top money for them either but what I have noticed is it would be very rear for me to get a fourth calf out of any springer that was bought in here, where as my own rearing it would be rear if I didn't at least get four calves out of them. Temperament and milk would be the two big problem I would see with anything bought in, lads will put anything that looks ok in calf and sell them.

tellmeabit · 24-11-2022 11:50AM

Ya, this lad is off probably my best lady. Poor stars but produces. Was hoping for heifer. Same bull in the oven this year. Fella sold was 5star replacement.

Last year was 1st year here having a sim, since we milked 30 years ago.

Used one other sim and got twin heifers last year..

Those calves wouldn't take to ration while out 1st time I've seen that. Was trying them in shed any time they were around the yard. But maybe 1 of them ate it outside so didn't bother.

Weaned them early in effort to try get some cows out again to wean the rest.

Happy with them, still improving.

fulldnod · 24-11-2022 02:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119910186#Comment_119910186

Ya, it was lots for them and they were plain enough and got feck all meal, so he made a few pound out of them

If they from a suckler herd he would be better off on the dole

fulldnod · 24-11-2022 02:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119905810#Comment_119905810

The next lad won't make a fortune out of them either

Dozer1 · 24-11-2022 10:04PM

was watching the suckler cow sale in Gortalea tonight, good few names showing up on the board from Mayo...would lads send cattle that far to sell them live?

charolais0153 · 27-11-2022 02:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119914741#Comment_119914741

1350 isn’t dear. You’d get most of that for a good weanling Ch and blue bulls and heifers worth too much to be putting replacement bulls on your best cows Store heifers are best value for money for replacements. Can pick what u want , weight u want. What bull U give and when u bull them.

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