Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I still can’t understand how a country can bomb another countries infrastructure so their citizens freeze and have no light in the 21st century and seemingly get away with it without serious retaliation.

And said country is on the UN council.

Its already a humanitarian crisis. Millions have fled. Do you think that no electricity changes that?

What russia is doing now, is an admission from a military point of view they have lost the war. They cannot do anything else but bomb civilian infrastructure and hope that the Ukrainians sue for peace, but that is highly unlikely to happen, given the success that Ukraine has had on the battlefield.

To add, Russia doesn't have an unlimited amount of missile to take out this infrastructure, infact from reading of it, they are almost of out them and Ukraine anti-missile defence is much better now then it was previously.

I maintain that if and once Ukraine and Europe get over the Winter and we get into Spring... Russia will be the one to blink.

OK, if it suits your argument that you want to push so much - then Ukraine could be enabled to carpet bomb Russian cities by way of revenge. Happy now?

What are you saying? Turn the other cheek? And let the Russians rape you?

The UN is now broken. It has shown itself to be utterly useless when push comes to shove. Time for a new body when this mess is over.

How many missiles do Russia have left?

Because war is brutal? It's brutal on the ground for both Ukrainian & Russian troops. But it's also additionally brutal for many Ukrainian citizens since they are being targeted as a Russian military tactic.

Anyway, so what's your proposal to bring this war to a conclusion. It reads from above, that you think NATO and allies should supply as many weapons and munitions as necessary to crush the Russian army on Ukrainian soil. What else do you propose? How do you see it all ending?

"lol"

So why are they reliant on Iranian drones then?

Me neither. Ukraine should be bombing them right back, it's the only way the Russians might ever question their government. But they can't, cos they depend totally on western weapons and the West is still afraid of nuclear retaliation

Don't think of a yellow horse.

It will sink just the same. Why would it matter who made the helicopter?

Iranian drones are cheap as chips compared to the missiles required to shoot them down

Until an inexpensive AA missile for those drones is introduced, the russians/iranians are burning western money by sending those drones in the air. Financial as well as physical terrorism.

People have been speculating about the exhaustion of russian precision missile capabilities since spring of this year - every 2nd month a new prediction comes out from some talking head about how they have effectively run out of precision munitions and cannot launch any more long range strikes on desired targets. Then a few weeks later the russians do another wave of precision missiles against Ukrainian infrastructure.

The reality is nobody actually knows how much they have in reserve - they have been paranoid about "the west" for decades, and likely stockpiling all sorts in preparation for the war with NATO that never comes. The invasion of Ukraine was likely planned for some time, so no doubt in the interim they have ramped up production and stockpiled essential parts for their missile industry also.

Even without Russia at the top table of any new body, the US, China, the larger European economies are going to dominate it, and they'll set it up so that there's always some kind of get-out clause that suits them, or else they won't participate at all. It's not possible to have some kind of independent and impartial authority above all nations equally, unless we get in contact with some aliens that are willing to do the job.

It would be a case of Ukrainan helicopter with Ukrainian crew attacking a legitimate military target ,

Case closed

Clare Daly and Ireland South MEP Mick Wallace rejected the resolution.

https://www.change.org/p/call-for-the-resignation-of-irish-meps-clare-daly-and-mick-wallace