Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Germany was completely destroyed and dismantled, split in two for an entire generation. It has readily accepted and moved on from its past, all the while ensuring that those historical mistakes are never allowed happen again, into a stronger and fully democratic country that is the pillar of modern Europe.

Putting aside the fact that the Soviet Union visited plenty of barbarity on its own populace from 1922 onwards, as well as those of conquered nations.

Russia hasn't changed in those same 80 years, at least not by those milestones. It still has the exact same zero regard for democracy, equality, human rights, law etc that it did in 1945. Putin is the most corrupt leader in modern Russian history. He has zero interest in Russia, the wellbeing of the country or its population, only in himself.

1. End to large scale loss of Ukranian life and extreme violence.

2. Four oblasts and no to NATO

3. Mearsheimer points to the fact that USA would not allow Mexico or Canada to join an organisation with the USA as it's primary enemy. That has been Russia's complaint for a long time. It's already massive, growing bigger risks destabilising it. They did not go in with shock and awe like the USA did in Iraq. They wanted an end to discrimination against ethnic Russian's which Ukraine would not do and now they control the ethnic Russian regions. I could be here all day, I'm sure you understand the ceasefire violation escalations prior to the war? I think the question would be would Ukraine try to reclaim the four regions after such a ceasefire not would Moscow try to conquer more of Ukraine.

4. Very unlikely in my opinion. Maybe some but it looks like they're gearing up for a large offensive. The Russian's have walon all the tank war games etc.

They've won every event since 2015. I don't think they're as incompetent as they're made out to be.

It's a pen name.

woman who fights for workers rights.

Weird, it's a pseudonym that everyone appears to know. Not sure why Susan Webber, who was a prestigious financial person chose to write with a male pseudonym. Yves has good thoughts on finance but is spouting sh1te about Ukraine.

Indeed, it has scarcely changed a jot from Tsarist Russia. Total disregard for human rights, personal freedoms, freedom of speech etc - it scarcely seems part of Europe at all under Putin.

We must have imagined that mass graves have been discovered in the now liberated towns such as Bucha. The children in Mariupol freely left for Russia too I suppose. Don't get me started on all those Ukrainian people just begging to be raped.

To deal with the other old chestnuts

If the expansion of NATO is such a problem, why isn't Russia now attacking Finland or Sweden?

The ethnic Russians in Kharkiv who have driven the Evil Russians from their city are testament that there is no discrimination. It is just another silly excuse to justify the invasion.

Finally, your opinion is rubbish, you really want us to take you seriously when you claim you'd never heard of the Nazi Wagner group fighting for your side.

Long article from a few days ago on nasty treatment meted out to workers to encourage "loyalty" to Russia in the Zaporizhzhia power plant.

Brutal, cruel and ultimately dumb as well (IMO) as usual. What else would you expect at this stage?

In the NATO-Russia founding act and Helsinki accords, Russia has already accepted the principle that Ukraine can join NATO.

NATO-Russia Founding Act covers what weapons systems and bases can be deployed. Those measures are there to avoid escalation and provocation. That is all that Russia is entitled to. This is a canard that has been thoroughly discredited already multiple times on the thread no matter how much whataboutery you try to engage in.

Do you understand how many times Russia broke the Budapest agreements? There is no peace without Ukraine in NATO or under its umbrella. Russia has demonstrated it cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement that is not backed by the threat of overwhelming force.

And your nonsense about Russia being there to protect ethnic Russians was already dismantled yesterday in a direct reply to you which you could offer no response to.

The intrinsic degeneracy of the Horde is apalling.

So there wasn't 27 millions Russians killed after all , Estimated by the Russians

I am not defending neo Nazis or paedophiles and live in Dublin. Your diabtribe has added nothing.

What is your suggestion, keep attacking entrenched russian positions with further huge loss of Ukranian life?

That decision is for Ukrainians to make, not you.

They have clearly made it, and their bravery in that that decision can be either be admired or distained.

I choose to admire it, you choose to ridicule them by posting links to and repeating Russian propaganda.