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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,113 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    A lot of discussion ( https://archive.ph/meovS, for example) on whether this is good or bad in that it might slow things down. Lawrence Tribe was one who initially thought it was a bad idea, but he's come around to it


    IMO I think this is a natural progression. US Law is frustrating in that it grinds slowly. The challenge for Smith is the loonies in the Congress like Gym Jordan who is vowing to obstruct, and 'shadow Speaker' Madge Taylor with her 'impeach Merrick Garland!' blather.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    He's actually ripping a page out of the Democrat playbook here. Pelosi and Biden continuously never mention Trump by name and it riles him up even more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Kevin Sorbos been a wingnut for years now. Creationism seems to have been his gateway drug

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Also insures him deniability should trump get the nomination



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Doubtful another party could emerge, but Trump could conceivably get the most support as an independent since Ross Perot, who managed to make it onto the debates. And these independents can have a huge impact on elections. I seem to remember that the Democrats blamed Ralph Nader for siphoning off vital votes from Al Gore in the 2000 presidential election.

    The biggest canary in the coal mine for Trump is going to be what the noises coming out of the extreme right are over the next two years, as voiced by the likes of Greene and Boebert, and also what the chatter is on the militia/QAnon/alt-right scene. If that lot start hitching their flag to another figure, Trump is dead as a dodo. It's not as if all the people who participated in, and/or endorsed 6/1 have suddenly morphed into sane, rational people. They're still out there. They know how close they came to bringing down the whole edifice of American democracy. They're not going to just stop scheming. Does Ron DeSantis go far enough for these people? Would DeSantis court their vote if he did decide to run for president?

    Although the election denial candidates of Trump lost out, it's not as if they got so few votes that they were irrelevant. Many of the races were close, so there are still a lot of people out there in America who either believe in that stuff or won't condemn it, which remains a huge worry for the country. Any emerging Republican candidate, like DeSantis, has to figure out how to build a coalition between that and more moderate voters. There's going to be a lot of brainstorming among Republican strategists over the next while in order to decide the correct balance to strike.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Yeah I think trump is toast tbh. I think the Republicans will turn MAGA into their mantra. Yes it worked for trump once but now it has baggage. Like the capital storming for example. MAGA may just be a soundbite this time around. I think the True believers will still follow him But I wager their small enough in the whole context of voting republican vs voting for trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't think the Republican party are worried about baggage so much as who can get the votes. They would still be forced to row in behind Trump if that's who their base chose. That's kind of been the story of the Republican party over the last 7 years or so.

    But yes, the Republican party will be doing a lot of polling to try and determine exactly how big the hardcore MAGA base is and go from there. If it's small enough, there remains the possibility to cut it out of the equation entirely. Would be a lot less of a headache for the party, for sure.

    The only thing is that the issues that Trump tapped into for the Republican base haven't entirely evaporated. Southern border security remains a concern, and propping up culture war bogeyman to knock down looks like a big hit for DeSantis, as does the idea of a candidate who will talk back to the media. How many of these talking points would a challenger to Trump retain in their election platform, and how much of it is too much for the independent American voter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,791 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Has Trump showed up in Georgia to campaign for Herschal Walker yet?

    Was just thinking that a presidential debate season with 3 candidates would be epic. All Biden would have to do is just stand there and look presidential while de Santis and Trump tear strips off one another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,452 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Space Karen running a Twitter poll on whether T***p should be reinstated. Hard to believe this is real life sometimes but here we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Results are in. Trump is back on twitter.

    Great news.

    It'll further spilt the GOP.

    It'll further tank twitter's value.

    It'll drive his approval ratings lower.

    It'll help Jack Smith.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Throwback to this tweet...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Hard to see Trump staying away from Twitter for too long unless Musk can complete his destruction of the platform.



  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems trump is contracted to truth social for 6 hours before reposting to twitter https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2022/05/16/trump-twitter-return-truth-social/amp/



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Because he has such a good reputation for honouring contracts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,241 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    So the people have spoken and Elon has given the people what they want.

    Trump is back on Twitter and before the end of the year as I predicted.

    Its only a pump and dump they said, Trump wont be back they said.

    Now the tune has changed to its a good thing he is back as he will destroy the GOP and Twitter.

    Spoken like true politicians.

    You have to love it.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good.

    It was outrageous how Trump was banned, but that Muslim fanatics were allowed to spew bile on Twitter.

    An injustice corrected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,653 ✭✭✭valoren


    Trump getting allowed back on Twitter is a win in the same way getting offered a return trip to Southhampton from New York was a win after an unsinkable ship hit an iceberg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,255 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's just a poll on Elon's twitter, any time he has a poll, voting often seems to be quite centric to whatever his view is. If Joe Rogan had a poll, would likely be centric to his views. Trump has millions of hardcore followers, he was encouraging them to vote on it also. I wouldn't put much stock on it.

    I also predicted Trump would be back on Twitter, and that he'll also be active on it (assuming the company doesn't go bust)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




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  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's an interesting justification. Two wrongs does make a right apparently.

    Trump is probably the most famous twitter user. There's a spotlight on him so the comparison to some random fanatic isn't really a fair one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,241 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It will be great to have the Donald back where he belongs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    He probably did and we all know what The Chump meant by that !!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Twitter gave Trump extraordinary leeway. He was allowed to belch unsourced, ignorant guff for ten years before being kicked off the platform. He's not a victim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,452 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy




    The bots have spoken more like. Didn't have the balls to do it himself so had to run a bogus poll. Embarassing stuff yet again from the manbaby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    If you think that his tweets or your fawning over them will wind anyone up, you're sadly mistaken. Nobody gives a **** about what he says. Even Fox news is bored of him.

    I've been saying for some time now that I want him back on twitter, I want him running for president. It'll all end in MAGA tears, and I am really looking forward to it.


    Edit - look at what we have been missing on truth social this evening for example!!.

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭PropJoe10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Two questions;

    1) wtf is wrong with these two arseholes? Seriously? Imagine having access to a shitload of money and still having the mentality of a 12 year old?

    2) wtf is wrong with people who idolise these two arseholes? Is there nobody out there who could provide a better example of how a functioning adult should behave?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Cody montana




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    If you think that his tweets or your fawning over them will wind anyone up, you're sadly mistaken. Nobody gives a **** about what he says. Even Fox news is bored of him.

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Yeah, this... to a degree. The biggest issue with trump is the damage he has done to the American voting system for NO REASON other than personal gain. His impact on democracy will be felt for decades/generations because of his ego, thin skin and ... fans. Long after he is dead and his ... fans OD on crystal meth or die attempting some further insurrection attempt (Either organised or simply turning up at some random senator's house), the damage will still be there. Again. For NO REASON other than his ego.

    But as for trump himself, yeah, he is a parody at this stage. He hasn't said anything new since 2019. Remember when he outed himself as a serial sexual predator? Old news. Remember when he said that white supremacists were "fine people"? We've known that for YEARS. He said it YEARS ago. Remember when he was recorded trying to steal Georgia's votes? Over 2 years ago. Remember when he suggested, as the President of the United States that someone should assassinate his political rival, Hilary Clinton? One of his first speeches. And we all know his post election traitorous actions but that's been covered.... WE remember these actions. His ...fans still remember these. And they still support him 'cos he shares the same values as them.

    So now it's yeah, just old man angry at cloud.

    As for these points. I will speak simply for myself. I was wrong on many of my assumptions:

    • I absolutely thought that if Musk went ahead, that it was going to be a pump and dump. 100%. I still can't figure out why he's doing what he is doing. I suspect we are not seeing the big picture and there is some plan to it. But yes, I was 100% wrong on this.
    • trump back on Twitter. Yep. Was wrong about this too. (I'm not sure I personally said he wouldn't be back but I certainly thought he wouldn't be, so I'll take that hit).
    • ...... And then we said that this "Zero Moderation" that Musk initially proposed was not feasible and would result in the loss of revenue and the reduction of Twitter to another 4chan. Yet another cesspit of hate. I don't know if many said it was going to END Twitter. But that it would be the start of the descent into hatespeech. (But there is another thread for that)
    • And as for the "He's back" well, nobody said he left. And you will find that many many MANY people were stating for the last year that him running again would be great for the Democrats. Especially if there was an attempt by the GOP to distance themselves from the GQP and its trumpists.

    So I can admit when I personally was wrong. That's what an adult does. Personally I think that "the donald": a self-professed serial sexual predator, traitorous, white-supremacist-supporting, dictator-supporting, US-hostile-nation-supporting, insurrectionist-instigating, self-evidenced election-fraudster who supports the assassination of political rivals is maybe not the best candidate. But that's just me.

    So yeah, you will find that thoughts here about him "coming back" and being detrimental to the GOP and Twitter is not something new. At all.


    Edit: Fixed typos

    Post edited by TheIrishGrover on


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