What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

astrofool

The announcement seems to be a bit of a whimper so far, hopefully the media knows the best way is just report the facts of what he's doing/saying and let him bury himself (if it needs announcing/reporting at all).

And we'll undoubtedly have another 4 seasons landscaping event to laugh at.

Que lots of "they're silencing conservative voices" all over the airwaves...

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880625#Comment_119880625

Indeed very low energy, I wonder if its all just his bluff to get assurances from De Santis of a pardon.

everlast75

The important issues....

Hungry Burger

If Trump was to win could he hypothetically run again in 2028?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880650#Comment_119880650

Landing on Mars will be his way of ignoring the climate crisis and focusing his sheep on populating another planet while this one burns and floods

Sleepy

I'm less inclined to think it's a genuine run for the presidency than it is an excuse to keep grifting off the hard core MAGA base.

While I'd like to imagine there are laws surrounding how campaign donations are spent, funnelling that money back into his own pocket is always going to be easy (e.g. the Trump 2024 Campaign purchasing advertising from Trump Jnr Ad Agency Inc or the like)

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880669#Comment_119880669

No he can't as he couldn't serve a third term

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880669#Comment_119880669

No.

Well Donald Trump announces his plan to run for a third-term as US President, after living through his second term in Mar-a-Lago. After all, he didn't lose the last election, right?

More seriously though, this will splinter asunder the Republicans. Expect Mike Pence, Virginia Governor Glen Youngkin, and outgoing Maryland Governor Larry Hogan to join the race, along with DeSantis too.

Internecine warfare writ large for the Republicans. Hard to see how this ends up well for them.

Leroy42

Ivanka is a big loss. She was the moderate voice in 2016, the way to smooth Trump's edges, especially with women, but also overall.

She played a major part in the idea that Trump in office would be different than Trump in campaign mode, that she would be a sane voice able to direct her dad.

So he is entering into 2024 race in a very different position than 2016, and even 2020. In 2016 he was new, and fresh and tbf his ideas of draining swamp, getting rid of the likes of HC, resonated with people across the board.

He struggled in 2020 because it was clear that he had achieved almost nothing in that respect. Add to that Jan 6th, his constant election denial and the numerous investigations into him both personally and professionally, with the biggest being the Classified Documents issue, and he is facing into a massively changed landscape.

Over the past 6 years Trump has shown little ability to change the message, instead regurgitating the same message over and over again.

I would never count him out, US POTUS race comes down to a relatively small number of swing voters in a handful of states, but I can't see much in the way of advantages that he has.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880778#Comment_119880778

How is it a third term? He's only done one. Unless you think he should be rightfully sitting now because of some election scandal then he cannot sit for a third term due to constitutional restrictions. Please square that circle for all of us

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Whilst they will certainly look disorganised, do you see the Democrats fielding a good team? I really don’t think they should send out Biden to bat again

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880790#Comment_119880790

It was clearly a sardonic reflection, unmeant to be taken seriously.

Muahahaha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880110#Comment_119880110

I watched the speech last night and 15 minutes in to it Bidens Twitter account tweeted out "Donald Trump Failed America" and they had a video ready to go. It juxtaposes the Jan 6th riots with Trump saying he would give the rioters pardons which I thought was neat, that will get heavy use over the next 2 years.

Also right before the speech started we had a Dark Brandon moment, Biden went live to the press pack outside his hotel at the G19 at exactly 1.55am and the networks who were broadcasting Mar a Lago had to switch to what he was saying about the situation in Poland. That then delayed Trumps scheduled 2am start. CNN then cut Trumps speech off at 2.25am and Sky did the same about 5 minutes later. At that point you could see a few empty seats in the crowd and about a third of them were standing up hanging on his every word but the remainder were sitting slumped in their seats. It was real low energy stuff but at least he deliberately avoided the stolen election schtick.

He seemed pissed about Kari Lake, I was surprised he mentioned her given he hates losers but he backed her to the hilt. I reckon she might have been his favoured pick as Vice President nominee and now that plan is in the mud.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1592704151384985602

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880798#Comment_119880798

It's entirely possible that Trump could beat Biden, but current polling suggests only a very marginal lead:

The poll, released Monday, shows Trump with a 2-point edge over his successor, should he mount another bid for the White House. Forty-five percent of voters say they would support the former president for a second term in 2024, compared to 43 percent who plan to back Biden.

So when you see these narrow polls, why would the Democrats want to take the risk and replace Biden?

Once the criminal investigations into Trump are complete, I fully expect Biden's lead to extend significantly more. Of course Trump will proclaim "fake news", but that will only appeal to his minority sheep base and not with the general public. So his empty proclamations just won't work.

everlast75

Again - Biden was the perfect opponent for Trump in 2020. He is the perfect opponent for Trump in 2024.

The fact is, he is not unlikeable. He is not offensive. You can call him all the names you want but it is impossible to hate him. Even Fox admitted as much recently, IIRC.

Trump can waffle on, but side by side, Trump is a cheap suit and Biden is a polished professional.

Biden has a stack of achievements, Trump has anarchy.

Biden has the complete support of the Dem party and most independents. Trump has his 20% MAGA base.

Let Trump run. Hopefully he does.

I suspect however, he will fade away. He's already courting Q-Anon. If he was a serious contender, they wouldn't be needed.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880891#Comment_119880891

It will be interesting to see how QAnon reconfigures itself, seeing how Trump's star appears to be fading.

"DONALD TRUMP WAS SENT BY GOD TO ROOT OUT SATANIC PAEDOPHI- Oh, no.....wait, we are receiving a clarification, here - it says he was sent by Twitter. Nevermind!"

Igotadose

@Leroy42

Ivanka is a big loss. She was the moderate voice in 2016, the way to smooth Trump's edges, especially with women, but also overall.

Disagree. She came out anti-abortion which loses any cred she has as a moderate. She had no influence over TFG beyond helping with pro-Goya ads.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119880810#Comment_119880810

She absolutely was his intended running mate. He must have been raging going on stage

the responses to her tweet (“we know BS when we see it in Arizona”, or something like that) are very entertaining. Generally along the lines of “yep, you got that right” and “nice self reflection there”. And her fans pointing to the fact that she has more twitter and Facebook followers than her rival as proof that she cannot possibly have lost. It’s comical and so Trumpian

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881032#Comment_119881032

There are still some posters on here equating "likes" and crowds with votes and can't understand when actual votes go the other way (or they bubble seething just under the stolen election narrative and spill over now and then).

Muahahaha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881032#Comment_119881032

I only just read yesterday that Kari Lake called John McCain a loser during campaign and said that Arizonans don't like losers. Given how close the race was all she had to do is let McCain RIP and she probably would have won it. She literally talked herself out of a win by attacking a dead man and someone who was very popular in Arizona. But that's what happens when you follow the Trump play book.

She also sent Liz Cheney a hate soaked letter during the campaign but Cheney got the last laugh with this tweet yesterday

https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1592340964982808576

briany

That little pained and insincere closed-mouth smile after Trump announced he'd be running. That's all you need to know right there. I think he knows his time as a major political influence is coming to a close.

However, I'm still surprised that he didn't announce at a rust belt rally. Holding at Mar a Lago only furthers the idea that he suddenly can no longer fill those kinds of events.

Hungry Burger

My knowledge of American politics is a little rusty, but is it not early to be announcing a presidential bid considering the election is two years away?

Seems he’s trying to spook the republican opposition into not running against him.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881383#Comment_119881383

No rules on this. TFG announced for 2020 the week he was inaugurated in 2017. First primaries are January 2024

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881383#Comment_119881383

Usually it'd be the coming spring/summer in the normal cycle. It's very early, especially considering there's still the Georgia run off to come and trump's announcement will divert fundraising away from it

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881383#Comment_119881383

Not that unusual. American presidential elections can last up to 2 years which of course reflects American craziness.

It'll be interesting to see how CNN deal with Trump this time given the ridiculous coverage they gave him for years. People have copped on that they were making lots of money by saying how bad he was. They can't get away with that now.

Billy Mays



Can a mod change the thread title to 'What does the future hold for Florida Man?'

namloc1980

Very boring speech with the same old tired lies repeated. He's just exhausting at this stage and outside the hardcore MAGAists, who does Trump actually appeal to?

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119881434#Comment_119881434

I like the sub heading as a title!

I can quite see what must be the GOP’s nightmare scenario: Trump losing the Primaries but refusing to concede, calling them a fraud and that thy were stolen. That would utterly split the GOP support and hand everything to the Dems