Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Eeehh,,,, NO! Only in Putin's corrupt mind. Time for someone to put down the vodka bottle and go to bed. Actually there are a few here tonight that seem to be vodka posting.

Just stop posting this nonsense.

Fighting an insurgency for 8 years? An "insurgency" only made viable by Russia. Without Russia intervention the "insurgency" would have collapsed within weeks. The irony is that Russian intervention achieved very little, hence this current war, BECAUSE Ukraine was united against it.

Russia pounding civilian targets, cities, will not win them the war. That's been proven time and time again in history. Countless countries have been hit far, FAR, harder and failed to break in historical conflicts, what Ukraine is suffering is horrendous, but nowhere near breaking point. Russia is doing this because it's floundered on the actual battlefield and continues to do so, and is resorting to Nazi Germany terror tactics.

It didn't work then, it won't ultimately work now.

Who would have thought it. A modern Ukrainian army trained by the west, trouncing the antiquated Russian army with a fraction of the annual budget. How embarrassing.

The point about strikebacks on Russia soil is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. Russia is the aggressor, Russia is the one that needs to feed a war machine that's not officially at war, fighting against an entire nation, and frankly, proven to not be capable of waging a real war after losing their opening gamble.

I don't know what your obsession is with these mythical Russian defenses. Smacks of Hitler ranting about the impenetrable Atlantic Wall. We had posters here claiming that Ukraine could never take Kherson because of the topography. Sorry to rain on your parade but the Russian army is a rotten, corrupt disaster and it's being exposed by an army minuscule in size with very limited western support.

And now Ukraine needs nuclear weapons to break the deadlock in your imaginary campaign? Ukraine should surrender because of the danger of civil war, despite the fact there's absolutely zero fracture within Ukraine, because the entire country is united against Russia? Seems impartial.

Finally, Belarus. Ukraine should surrender because your vague, erotic, far-flung fantasy of civil war in Ukraine, might affect the dictatorship in Belarus, thus causing a refugee crisis.

Seriously, put down the crack pipe.

A positive show of strength 5 NATO carrier groups and escorts patrolling the waters around Europe.

The Gerald R Ford is the newest US carrier.

Unity against 1 brutal and thankfully weakened enemy.

I live in an area where many Russians have arrived for holidays they are cold creatures its in their eyes.

Repeating the same nonsense does not make it true. Why would Ukraine compromise? The tide has turned against Russia and the West continues to back Ukraine.

I don't normally say this,but bloody hell, the Putin bots are out in force here the last couple of pages...claims so ridiculous they don't even bear engaging with...

Funny how you speak for the west, when were you appointed?

Well that's the answer why they have so many people at the embassy - it's a training camp for trolls and unfortunately boards.ie is their training and testing grounds. If there is a positive response here they will spread it to the wider audience.

Ukraine has alot of resources with great potential if corruption was reduced. I can see it eventually joining the EU to transition towards a more western european ecomony. This is what Russia fears, a strong democrate Ukraine that they can't control. Russia will end up with bits of Eastern Ukraine but that will just bleed away their resources over the years while the rest of the Ukraine can rebuild and move on. The Russians utterly failed in Ukraine but getting them out of all together is a different matter. Calling people Russia bots because they dont have the same option as yourself is pointless. Everyone has a different viewpoint, no one here is defending the Russians they are callous scumbags, but there will come a point in the any conflict when talks must happen. I wouldn't trust the Russia one bit, the UN or some neutral force will need to patrol any future boarder.

So your big boy pants solution for peace talks right now is that Russia will just walk away? What of Crimea? I thought you were delusional on the SF thread but this takes the biscuit.

But ok, peace talks where russia fully withdraws, how does one instigate that? You know, besides thoughts and prayers.

Is it wrong to execute collaborators and informers?

It was done here, one would want to be certain though.

I would consider it an important thing to do.