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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    His trolling was too obvious for even his handlers so he has been mobilised

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A quick summary of the energy strategy

    Similar pushback in the US from the likes of the GOP, but we don't need to unpack that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    It took them a while but Merc has pulled the plug on Russia. Ford are due to follow them out too.

    About time they did I was saying to myself.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sounds like they would be very suitable for forest clearance too!



  • Posts: 333 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ukraine's Defence Minister, Oleksiy Reznikov seems like a smart man, able to read his enemy perfectly without throwing the toys out of the pram and ranting like a headless chicken when he said today that while the Russians have done a lot of stupid things, they have remained consistently pragmatic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,952 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    I wouldn't call their behaviour "pragmatic". The absolute opposite of pragmatism is what it is



  • Posts: 333 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It simply says something about humans, people just want to get on with their lives and protect their own, survival you know. It doesn't mean people don't give a toss. Oh and...people on high horses have the hardest fall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,683 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I think he's played you like he's playing the RuSSians. He wants them to continue their behaviour. Wouldn't you? They're a shower of clowns grinding through their soldiers and watching their economy implode. Please, keep doing the same things and bleed yourselves to death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake, i believe the phrase is.


    Russia is shattering itself on the Ukrainian rock in the most pragmatic way.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Does he play any auld bit of music? I've heard Ukrainian traditional music myself one time before when I was there, and it's very good, (if you like that kind of music.) Would be a different style of traditional music than say Joe Bourke would play, but aside from that, very easy on the ear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Diamondcut


    Reuters reported finding thousands of Russian army documents left behind after they abandoned a makeshift military HQ in the town of Balaklia.

    The Russians must have fled fair fast for this to happen,wonder did Ukrainian army get some nice Intel that's helped them the last few month's out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    TBH, I'd pay little heed to Russki Army documents. Been there and done that

    Post edited by Slava_Ukraine on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,952 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I don't believe half of these pulling outs. Nike said they pulled out of Russia months ago but they are still sponsoring athletes and sending them fresh gear to flog off on Social Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,952 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes! Thats the stuff all right. They have good traditional music and like to sing and play. That was a good example of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dockysher


    Check in this thread the odd time to read the comments. The reality is ukraine are not winning this war, their country is being totally destroyed.

    They will be in severe debt for many years, the pyhsical and physcological damage to their people for many years will be massive.

    In the long-term they can not win this war unfortuantely. They can not rebuild their country and people wile at war everyday, no matter how much money and weapons are pumped in.

    People get too stuck on media coverage of this war that does not show the true reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's not real. It could be the mil sim Arma, with a lot of mods. Look at the 2d blocky trees at the bottom, a few seconds in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,709 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If they dont fight Russia to a standstil now in the long term Russia just comes back again. There wont be peace, just a truce.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    What do you think should be done then OP? Any suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Just maybe it's because ye've let yourselves be ruled by Vladimir Putin. Who took it upon himself to appoint himself dictator of Russia for the last two decades. But we all know this wouldn't have happened for the Russian people didn't rise against him up to now. That enough warning was given of Putin's ways up to this invasion and genocide and ye still stood by. Ye stood by when Putin used african and middle eastern refugees as weapons of war against Europe. Ye stood by when opponents were poisoned and were murdered off high rise buildings. Ye stood by Putin had his Chechen terrorists abduct opponents in Moscow and murder in Chechnya, whether gay or political. Ye stood by when thousands of ye're countrymen were sent to die in Ukraine. But seeing as ye're so screwed up in ye're philosophy in Russia, ye probably hoped for your neighbours misfortune for some profit. Ye stood by when the world watched your army, rape, murder, steal whatever they can get their hands on. Ye stood by. Ye stood by when Iranian expats protested against their government and ye just watched your own government and Putin. Ye stood by and let the world's people form on opinion on ye purely by ye're own actions and that of those who take it upon themselves to defend the russian army and claim they want peace. But peace in your eyes means doing nothing against the actions of Putin's forces. Ye stood by. Ye became Putin. Own it. Ye earned it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They are winning the war and they will rebuild....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,952 ✭✭✭zv2


    Don't worry the Russian oligarch money is already set aside for rebuilding.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    You may check in this thread an odd time (a very odd time, at that), but you're certainly not keeping abreast of the war, in any way. As any of the longterm posters here will tell you, most of the information gleaned about the war comes not from "Social Media", but from credible ( note that word) OSINT sources.

    Might I suggest reading through the pages of this thread from about March onwards. It will give you a very good overview of why Ukraine will win this war, why it will be rebuilt, and why Russia will never be permitted to attain the position it reached before the war.

    I'm guessing you are quite young, with not too much travel under your belt, or work in "interesting" places, but you are seriously underestimating the will of the West to make Ukraine work, when all is said and done. Its an absolute priority of all NATO countries that Ukraine wins this war.

    Remind me to refer back to your post next April/May.

    *edit:

    Yes, you are young, and explains the slight naivety, if you don't mind me saying so. If you know any of your buddies in the army, ask them what they think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    I suppose we can lay some of the blame for those supporting the Russian regime on the old soviet dread of thinking or saying the truth. It's easy for us in the civilised world to judge a state which is probably in the same mentality as Europe was sometime around 1890. I feel sorry for the people living there. Most probably know nothing better. The state and its institutions may be run by scum and useful idiots, but it's the people in the west who should know better. There's no good excuse for them.

    In the past few weeks we've seen deliberate targeting of innocent civilians by cowards afraid to step foot near Kiev, supporting this either means your IQ is in the disabled range or you've swallowed lies so long you are just unable to tell what is true or real.

    In a way, I think the far-left will be caught out on this like their excusing and denial of genocide in Cambodia, and the far-right is no better. That's definitely for the best. We need to see who these cretins are and remember their names.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

    I am not saying that the war is good for Ukraine. But Ukraine is objectively winning in a tactical sense. And even more importantly, Ukraine is winning strategically, not just over Russia, but over its own colonial self.

    Why did Putin think that Russia can take over Ukraine easily? Because there were Ukrainians who did not appreciate the independence from Russia enough, or valued their hard won freedoms enough. The independence was given for free to Ukraine when the USSR collapsed. Many people still clung to the feeling of belonging to the common union where there were almost no barriers between Russia and Ukraine in many respects. Well, that illusion is gone. Ukraine is a truly independent country now, regardless of how the current war is progressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Does he know you are a Putin admirer and supporter?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Well in a tactical sense they are the ones making territorial gains and pushing the Russians from their land, albeit things seemed to have slowed down recently for them.

    I wouldn't be as optimistic as some posters in here who think that Ukraine will be able to liberate all their land including Crimea, as much as I would like to see that happen, I think it might be a step too far for them to achieve.

    However if the Ukranians feel that they wish to continue to fight for their freedom, I think they can push the Russians back much further than where they are at now. Yes its easy for me to say that when their are people being killed and their country is being destroyed but I believe it is a decision that the people of Ukraine should be able to make.



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