Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 - Read OP

laws like this can only have a chilling effect on legitimate debate

Do they?

Will have absolutely no effect on me, primarily because I'm not a hateful cúnt.

hate speech is such a made up term.

in the modern context of the weak minded , it's simply speech you don't like

Which part of the bill will stifle your "legitimate debate"

Be specific.

Exactly… weak minded people who cannot grasp that in a civilised world, one of the most profound pillars of our freedom is the ability to speak freely and openly.

 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

So no posters will have any issue when I call them racist for using hate speech then though, right?

Trans has been in the media non stop for the last 5 years and I still dont know exactly what it is they want.

It just seems to be a soap box for the politically correct to stand up on and do their fist raise.

Then the conservative media milks it for ragey click bait.

How can we make them shut up.

Some people need to read the constitution before they start banging on about profound pillars of freedom 🙄

And what qualifies an NGO who has zero impartiality in the debate btw, to ‘score’ anyone. It’s an ‘opinion’ communicated to push, suit and conform to their agenda and beliefs. Nothing impartial or credible about that.

nothing remotely democratic, thought out or appropriate. It’s a narrow self serving angle.

ironically. If we look back through history and the types of extremist ghouls who were advocates of and who actively brought in legislation to ban free speech…. Erm… it’s not a pathway we should be embracing.

While I've no time for woke idiots, I don't believe people should be given carte blanche and hide behind "freedom of speech" with their toxic vitirol. I agree that there has to be a line drawn in the sand regarding what people can say publicly. As with all laws, each case will be dealt with on its individual merits, not this scaremongering where legitimate debates will be shut down.

America is an ideal template of how not to approach freedom of speech and legitimate debate.

People who do not conform must be silenced.

So we shouldn't "police" things like genocide denial because it might upset some racist cúnts?

Really? 😕

Jesus, that is some leap!!!

Imagine giving the clergy the legal power to decide what can be spoken of publicly back in the day! I shudder to think what they would have done!!

We did do that and more, it was horrific, that's why I doubt Ireland in particular will be going back to our ultra social conservative roots because of some overdue hate speech laws.

Again specifically what are you afraid of?

No, it’s them who have a problem with other people and what they might say to the point of wishing to criminalise them.

we go around espousing the same standards anytime anyone disagrees or strongly critiques any organisation or group, their beliefs or values… because let’s get this straight… it’s not really about ‘hate’, but about putting people in their place and having a stick to threaten them with if any resistance or negative publicity should emerge in the media or social media that may shown them in an unfortunate or unfavourable light.