Is getting gowned or work part of your work hours?

When I run a workshop, starting at 8 means on the floor ready to work at 8.

The ones who have a problem with that are the same type who would take 15 minutes to get ready if that was considered to be part of their hours.

There once was a time when getting to work early wasn't considered to be such a dirty word.

Because gowning up can take 5 minutes and the same when gowning down. Its almost an hour a week you are giving to your employer or a full working week over the year. If it was really such an inconsequential amount of time then companies would simply pay it.

Theres a Solicitor on Instagram called Richard Grogan. He mentioned something about this before.

Basically, gowning up time is considered work time. So if you start at 8, by law you only have to start gowning up at 8

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You are allowed 5 minutes to gown up so you start gowning up at 8. If you weren't allowed 5 minutes gowning up time you need to be at your station at 8.

But check your employment handbook or contact because that will tell you when you start.

When I worked in Germany, there as prep and unprep time of 15mins in the day schedule at the start and end of the day. Its a dedicated room. To get onsite we clocked in and out. So it was within the working day not outside of it.

But it just depends on the terms and conditions of a job contract. No reason it would the same for everyone.

I'm not sure clock watchers rarely do well it's true. Since the manager your reporting to it's doing exactly that, as are contractors or outsourcing. It's the whole push back against wfh is clock watching. But certainly you don't want to known for that and not your work.

That said I wouldn't make a big deal of this particular situation it's too marginal and it's often expected.

Don't take Mick but don't be a patsy is a fine line.

If you're paid minimum wage then absolutely raise it with your employer.

But if you're on more than that, then just mentally adjust your actual pay rate to take account of the extra 10 mins per day.

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Only 7/10 IMHO, too many clichés.

Exactly. If you're that concerned about an extra 5 or 10 mins, then take a few minutes break at some other stage of the day. Why does it take 5 mins to get dressed?

I remember working in Duty Free in Dublin Airport. You had to be in the shop at 7am. The 30 mins it took to get from the car park thru security and down to the Ryanair terminal was not counted.

I worked at a supermarket butchers counter too. Pants, jacket and hairnet on before hitting the floor. It took less than a minute. I'd come in at 7.58 and on the floor before the clock hit 8.00.

dirty word? give over ffs. it doesnt matter how early someone gets there once theyre ready to go at the correct time

if its part of your job then its part of your days duties and days pay. if they want you to pay you from 8 then you start then , if they want you to start at 7,55 then they need to pay from there.

legally speeking your at work.

is it worth fighting over 10 min each day. thats up to you

I do. I also work extra when required. My current company is flexible that way

In my experience the companies that require you to get gowned up on your own time are also the ones that strictly watch the clock. That will discipline you if you clock out a few minutes early.

I've worked in places where the clock in system was inside the clean room so to clock in on time you had to be 15 minutes early and the same on the way out.

Again, if the time to gown up is so unimportant why does the company not just pay that time?

Getting gowned up properly is part of your job. You should be paid for it.