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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sure, in as large a country as Ukraine, a lot of it will have been at least physically untouched by the war..you will be able travel over vast distances without seeing any war destruction. So easy to see why articles can appear claiming that its not a real war, which is the angle they are pushing. The truth of course, is far different. Its an ugly destructive war, and caused by one man, and one man only, Vladimir Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Deputy envoy of Russia to UN denies export of Iranian drone to Russia, threatens to review relationship with UN secretary office, if UN send experts to study Russian drones in Ukraine

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,927 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I think treason is harsh. I think it was more a misguided thinking. I think Merkel taught that Germany could make Russia dependent on German cash flow. She just did not understand that Putin was just another psychopathic dictator.

    Merkel and Schroeder would have a distrust of the US and US policy. They just gave the ballox the benefit of doubt for too long.

    Remember from 2017-2020 you had the Donald in the equation as well

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Merkel was from East Germany. russia already had plenty of money after it recombined. Military spending killed the USSR pretty much keeping up or looking like it did with the west. I mean all those space missions must have come at a hell of a price. Did they not put a tank on the moon or something stupid. The west should never look that far east for allies it's simply different cultures with completely different values. Asian cultures for example strict hierarchy lead from top to bottom everyone know there place. russia always rules with an Iron fist. There is simply no way these cultures can get on other than simple diplomacy. Japan learned a lesson a very hard way but still has a strict system in place. If your half Japanese your not Japanese for example. You will always be see as the other half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Substation turned off the grid in Belgorod, due to power overload, - according to authorities

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    What was that song.. I want to run away. The Ukrainian video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    The same Donald that told them they were too reliant on Russian energy, and I am pretty sure this war would not have started with him as president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Obama and his administration warned of that years before. Trump didn't have an original or helpful idea by himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,401 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Because it's hard to turn down cheap and convenient energy, even when the attendant risks are pointed out. As the state of the planet today vividly testifies.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    What was the first impeachment of Trump about? An attempted quid pro quo by Trump? Withholding hundreds of millions of congressional budgeted monies for Ukraine arms in exchange for dirt on Biden’s son (intended by Trump to influence American voters in the November 2020 presidential elections)? The US House voted to impeach (Mostly Democrats but also some Republicans), but there were too many Republican US Senate votes along party lines that saved Trump from being thrown out of office.

    Similar to a Fox and Friends talking point, “I am pretty sure this war would not have started with him (Trump) as president,” was contradicted when former President Trump praised Putin for being a “genius” on the advent of 24 February 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine.

    Cmod Science, Health, and Environment



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Indeed.

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    Check the date. When it was still the Soviet Union.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Why wouldn't anyone, with a shred of common sense, be concerned about pouring billions of western arms into a region that was well known to have some of the highest levels of corruption and organized crime in the world? It's very easy for people to forget these things about Ukraine now, because the focus has shifted almost entirely onto Russia. But Trump was well aware of this at that point in time.

    Also, the Russians had no intention of waiting for security guarantees from the west. The historical distrust, meant that they couldn't actually rely on empty words or promises. Trump seemed aware of this too, which is why he saw western weapons pouring into Ukraine as an overt sign to the Russians that Ukraine was effectively becoming a de-facto NATO-armed state.

    We can dispute this line of logic all we want, but that's certainly how the Russians viewed it and Trump knew it. Now, you can criticise Trump for almost entirely putting US interests first in this respect, but the reality is that this policy might very well have avoided the scale of conflict we're witnessing today.

    And we have guys like Stoltenberg even coming out recently and letting the mask slip with regards to NATO's strategic position on this conflict. What are the Russians supposed to think now? From their perspective, their worst suspicions are being shown to be true. This emboldens them in the belief that they were correct to act preemptively. Western cries of "unprovoked attack" are met with levels of scepticism in Russia (and elsewhere), that are not entirely unjustified.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Reports of heavy fighting inside of Kherson itself over the last 48 hour's



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It absolutely would have,you can guarantee Ukraine wouldn't have gotten the levels of support they are receiving with that idiot as president



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭Field east


    So that’s your reason for Putin invading Ukr. If Putin is so upset about The Ukr even thinking about joining NATO that he had to invade it to head the idea off THEN why has he said/has done ABSOLUTLY NOTHING about an ACTUAL application by a neighbour of his ie Finland

    what is your reason for Russia invading Georgia. Was Georgia thinking of joining NATO also

    And what is your reason for Russia invading Moldova. . Was Moldova having notions about even thinking about joining NATO.

    will you ‘get up the Yard ‘ with your conspiracies, deflections, derailing attempts, falsehoods, insinuations, etc, etc, etc and stay there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭Field east


    It did not matter who was the American president. IMO , Putin would have a much higher chance of doing better in his special Ukr mission with Trump as president because he was more guaranteed that there would be little or no arms, etc, going to the Ukr than under Biden. Putin always had his eyes on The Ukr as he has on Georgia, and Moldova. God only knows what else he has eyes on? When I hear the name Putin two things immediately come to mind:-

    (1) he is an out and out OPPORTUNIST and jumps when the time comes

    (2) his overall , almost sole, focus is to get back to the USSR position and if it has to be done bit by bit so be it. And anything that helps that vision is constantly in his reader - interfering in the business of other countries to weaken them, etc, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Because Trump wanted to put America first, not some country thousands of miles from there border.

    The Democratic party are the biggest danger to world peace and greatest threat to mankind , they are even openly admitting to using Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia. They will bleed every last Ukranian if they could just to weaken the Russians.


    https://twitter.com/historyoarmani2/status/1582461658957746179?t=khEJKPCaP46deH8WHcqVaQ&s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Remind me again who unilaterally, unjustly and illegally invaded Ukraine, just so I can be clear on who the biggest danger to world peace is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,443 ✭✭✭Cordell


    When the thinking is misguided by russian money its treason, it is harsh because consequences are harsh. Schroeder is or was employed by Gazprom so he's not even hiding it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭Rawr


    *Looks at post count, & hyperbolic pro-MAGA post* Yea...enjoy your stay here.

    Keep in mind that Putin's Russia would bleed every Ukrainian if they could, simply because they believe that they have the right to do it. Armed Peace is essential to existence of our way of life, and I will not condemn a democracy wanting to stand up for another. Here's hoping the US remains a democracy and not become the Kleptocracy the other side salivate for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Ah, I know that but I'm always curious to see if they understand Irish references. Things you would only understand if you've lived in Ireland most of your life. From the few I've thrown out, the answer is usually no - it passes them by. So I conclude these posters are not familiar with Irish domestic politics and matters of society here. Posting from outside the state I'd think or at most they are 'furriners' living here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Russians in Sweden nicking traffic cams to send back to Russia for use in drones

    Seriously time for Europe to look at just sending Russians back home. Not worth the risk.

    Can you imagine what will happen if it kicks off with China, given our enthusiasm for handing out visas to them? They've already been caught setting up police stations across Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    This popped up on my YouTube...

    It's the full movie, quite well done. It scared a lot of people.

    Well worth a watch if you want to see how things got ramped up quite quickly.

    Show's all the fear and installed a lot of anxiety in people back then,how one tactical nuclear weapon leads to all out chaos.

    Started off in Germany, and it shows how nuclear weapons are a catastrophic option.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,501 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Ah that takes me back. I remember watching that on the black and white portable when I was in 5th class in primary school. It was on late on RTE, midweek, I think it was 10pm - midnight. I got a parental dispensation to stay up and watch it by myself because of my obsession with all things war at the time. Our teacher the next day was telling us about it and when he found out I'd been up watching it, he was shocked and warned me not to fall asleep in class. Most memorable bit for me was someone coming out of the shelter and stepping on the dustified remains of something. That teacher is dead now, natural causes, not radiation sickness after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Isn't that very nifty!?

    Really helps to streamline the whole "thanks whoring" process. Which, as we all know, is the hallmark of any aspiring critical thinker!

    I'm with @EOQRTL on this one, the thanks feature and places like twitter are really designed for a particular type of person. Limited word count appeals to people, with a narrow scope and a short attention span. Like/dislike features, help with instant gratification group-think bias & conformity etc.

    You'd be much better off getting a plugin that disables such features. But then people would miss out on their social media dopamine hit. lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    If Mexico had a far right militia on the border with the U.S and were murdering American citizens would the U.S just sit back and let it happen, and just to clarify I am in no way justifying Putin's actions nor his illegal annexation of western Ukraine, I am just highlighting the causes of this war which has been going on the last decade.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,047 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That wasn't the cause of the war.

    Putin is after resources nothing more.

    How many of these citizens has Putin killed as a result of his invasion and indiscriminate attacks? Citizens he is supposed to be protecting? Instead he is flattening their homes.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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