BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

It shouldn't just be about criticizing the Tories, the Labour party should be putting forward solutions to help with the cost of living and that way out pressure on the government to do something. Being in opposition isn't simply about holding everything back until election time, it is about holding the government to account and putting forward alternatives.

I am not saying Stamer is cut from the same cloth, I said the fundamental problems. So lack of growth, Brexit, lack of a new energy policy, education, NHS etc etc.

Brexit is done might be technically true, but you could say the same for Truss is PM now so nothing should change. Brexit is far from done, it will never be done. What Starmer should be doing is arguing for a correction of Brexit. But that requires courage, and Labour, not unsurprisingly, have opted to simply sit by and watch power to handed to them by default. The next party on the merri-go-round.

Which is perfectly fine as a plan to gain power, but gain power for what? There are serious structural problems in the UK. At the moment Labour aren't even talking about them never mind put forward an alternative.

Can anyone give me a brief synopsis (an idiots guide) to why Jeremy Corbyn's views were so radical?

Starmer is obviously more middle of the road and was seen (rightly or wrongly) as more palatable to floating voters, but what was it about Corbyn's manifesto/beliefs that made labour unelectable under his stewardship?

Possible U-Turn on keeping Triple Lock on pensions was the big thing there. Hunt seemed to want to get rid of it on Monday, Truss keeping it today. Hard to know if Hunt was blindsided by this announcement or not.

If the triple lock goes, so do some of those last 40 seats or so the pollsters have them at. Plenty of elderly voters will be swayed on that, and their turnout is huge

It was definitely a huge media disinformation campaign that a large portion of the public fell for. But a big factor was that this character assassination was heavily supported by the right wing of the Labour party, including people like Starmer and most of his shadow cabinet, because it was more important to them to take control of the Labour party back away from the members than it was to get into government. They knew full well the mess the Tories would make of the country but decided it was worth handing the keys and allowing them to unleash misery on the public in return for seizing control of the party ahead of the next election which the Tories were sure to lose.