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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,461 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That spot is rarely iced to be fair, I used to use it a fair bit.

    EDIT: I've seen that car icing it before, african female driver.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    What I find particular interesting is if you compare the number of DC chargers versus the km of motorway/e-roads (major European routes). Taking the numbers from the source in the report and comparing against road stats on Eurostat. We have 23.5 DC chargers per 100km, versus the Netherlands 106.2. We are still very much near the bottom of the list, but the numbers seem a little more accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭innrain


    If instead of counting the chargers we add the their power are we still on good grounds? Our network is 50kW dominated which is not really comparable to others. Oxford’s Redbridge Park and Ride has 10MW power installed which is equivalent to 50 Blanch like locations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Next EV road trip planned out (possibly nsfw, if you boss doesn't like rude words)

    And yes, I have the sense of humour of a 14 year old 😁

    Saw that one over on the funny pictures thread and couldn't resist seeing how long it would take in an EV

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    It was a young couple with 2 kids. No disabilities (not making excuses but maybe they needed to be closer to the door). Just laziness as there was at least 20 or more spots just metres from there.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I don't think it show's we're on good grounds, only Spain and Cyprus are worse when you do the Motorway/E-Road vs DC Chargers. It just makes the numbers a little more reflective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    One lad having a smoke in the wrong spot and it'll certainly take off 😱

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Probably worth considering that Spain has a lot of sparsely populated regions which have notoriously bad services

    Cyprus is currently in a bit of a civil war situation

    Meanwhile if the experts in Ecars try to count over 3 they get a migraine...

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,273 ✭✭✭zg3409


    In terms of ships they used to send all particles up the chimney. Newer ships collect the larger particles in a type of DPF filter and then put the bad stuff collected into the water. Great if you breathe air, but less so if you are a fish. A lot of these emissions and water pollution will be strictly along shipping routes/lines so specific exact places will get most pollution. The DPF filters let through the smaller particles anyway which may cause most harm, but they can't be seen so less politically harmful.


    Diesel electric is useful for ships with propellor pods for guiding the ship sideways and where you are docking regularly. It also produces electricity for cruise passengers, and lots of waste heat for heating the ship. The ships often have electric powered desalination plants to make drinking water rather than carrying and refilling water tanks over and over again. It seems to make financial sense than carrying extra unnecessary water around for showers etc, to make it in the go.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,461 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes there's always plenty of spots in that place, no excuse for iceing.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    The statistics are over all operators, our low numbers are caused by the governments complete lack of incentives and national strategy.



  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Netherlands population density is basically the whole country is more densely populated than Dublin.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    The population density of County Dublin is 3 times higher than density of the country of the Netherlands (based on a quick Google)

    The Netherlands have great charging infra because they had a forward-thinking start-up that wanted to get the ball rolling, when they approached the government, they were told they couldn't pick and choose locations and instead had to align with a national strategy that was then developed. It's a great example of public private partnership and how things should be done in a liberal market economy.



  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I stand corrected - it was a bad guess. On a countrywide level its a big difference.

    The Netherlands : 508 per Km2

    Republic of Ireland: 72 per Km2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    True, and to be fair I don't think we'll ever see a 30 charger hub in the Burren. But we're miles away from where we need to be


    Personally I think 4-8 car HPC hubs every 50km of national roads is what is needed at a minimum. Plus lots of AC and 50kW charging in towns and cities.

    More popular routes and stops will obviously need more chargers but that's something which should grow organically rather than trying to figure it out from some central plan

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,096 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Very sweet, but it's a lot of money for it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Saucy money alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭wassie


    They've been promoting that concept for while now so its interesting to see the final product. Wouldnt like to be opening that door up in the lashing rain. I can see it certainly being useful enough in the inner cities of Europe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's an investment in happiness, worth every penny 😉

    It's actually not the worst value at €15k when you think about it. There's cheaper mini EVs out there, but very few of them can do 90km/h and have enough range to get around all of county Dublin. Also, €50 motor tax and no VRT to pay 😁

    I'm curious if the Lite version is just software limited. It's possible you could get one and then unlock the higher top speed

    If I was living in the city and I needed something to zip around I'd consider one of these. I imagine you'd never have trouble finding parking 😁

    I could see GoCar or someone similar getting a bunch of these for cities, they can fit two of them into every car parking space they have rented from the councils and double their fleet

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭innrain


    Yeah but where do you charge them. GoCar retired all Zoes and Leafs and has 4 Konas left. Big backlash with the cars left charging for days. DCC doesn't want slow chargers in the city, hec they don't want moving cars on the streets only parked ones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,273 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I think the rules changed for gocar and they did not want to install their own street chargers. They were getting clamped in high numbers for being still parked when charging was completed and they had no easy way to move cars when full. Naturally they all should have had a dedicated spot and charger but gocar does not even have dedicated markings in many places let alone chargers. From their point of view it's straying from the core business of car share. Supporting, installing, repairing public or private in street chargers is a headache they don't want. It also limits where the cars can be based and presumably creates more confusion and support calls for those new to EV. I am not saying they are right, just they are a profit driven commercial outfit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭PaulJoseph22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    True, but to give a counter argument they also have to cover the fuel, tax and insurance costs on their cars. Micro EVs would be cheaper on all counts.

    There's definitely an investment required to make it work. But if other cities can make it work then I think it could work for Irish cities. There would definitely need to be some buy in from councils in terms of being flexible with providing reserved parking and chargers

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭wassie




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Over in Florida at the minute, seen 1 Rivian, 2 Ioniqs and then every day a shed load of Teslas.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,461 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    God I wish just one of those EV trucks would be brought here. Come on rivian, you have offices in the UK, bring the truck to europe! Or F150 lightning, etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,096 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Would be quite something to drive a huge machine around all over the shop and to charge it from your own solar 😁😎

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I was surprised by the Rivian, it's really not that big (by American standards)

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