F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

I suspect a lot of teams will start receiving envelopes with pocket money now.

Awe that's lovely. Fair play to Alfa.

Remember to make any cheques out to Care for Aged, Sick and Homeless or C.A.S.H. for short.

Don't get this move at all

Oh interesting. So nico and Mick at Haas would be a good team if Mick is there next year or even K Magnussen.

Quite simple, Hulkenberg won't write off the car every second race like Mick has this season.

Okay, that's a little of a bit of an exaggeration but Haas are looking for a safe set of hands and by going with Hulkenberg that they will save money compared to Mick.

The only other real option they had was Giovanazzi. What they really need is a decent American driver who can bring money and sponsors.

Hulkenberg and K-Mag together in the same team after 'suck my balls' is funny.

I don't get why Hulkenburg would be taken over Mick tbh. Mick is on an upward trajectory and looks better with every race. He's been very consistent since about Canada and he's outperformed KMag since then despite losing the quali battle. And only for Haas' awful strategic decisions Mick would have considerably more points. Their awful decision making flies under the radar because of Ferrari and the fact they're propping up the field.

Hulkenberg is a known quantity but I doubt he'd outperform Mick based on his trajectory. He's had his time in F1 and he'd be such an uninspiring appointment. It's also unfair judging Mick too much for 2021 - Haas wrote that season off before it began.

I think most people assume KMag is out performing Mick considering he has more points, but I would suggest the opposite is true. And Mick, being in his second year, has a far higher ceiling, probably not a future WDC contender, but maybe he can have a career like a Checo is he's given the chance.

I can see why Hulkenberg is an attractive option, but as I said, utterly uninspiring.

This is a tweet posted yesterday that shows Mick has race pace advantage over KMag.

He also leads the head to head for the season by (iirc) 11-7. And again, if I'm remembering right, Mick has been hampered by poor tactics more than KMag. Can't remember the figures, but KMag is hammering Mick in the quali head to head, which I think makes the race head to head record more impressive.

Another thing that's hampered the perception of Schumacher is that Magnussen was quick out of the blocks when Haas had a decent car at the start of the season and people were taking notice when he was outracing guys like Hamilton on equal terms. On the other hand while Mick has become much more competitive relative to his teammate over the course of the year, the car itself has gone backwards in the development race so his performances have gone under the radar.

However, that is surely not a fact that the team themselves or Steiner could have missed, so I'm surprised by the stance the team has generally taken, at times this year it's almost seemed like they want Mick to fail.

You would have to heavily factor in the fact that McLaren was comically off the pace as a reason for lack of sponsorship as well.

Still mad how Zac got Google to sponsor Mclaren, **** google who need no publicity as they're the default browser for the world essentially haha.

On mick/hulk/haas seems to be haas are not happy with mick causing damage to cars costing them money seems to be the final straw. Hulk is probably a safer pair of hands and at least as competitive?

Yeah the big crashes have been more unfortunate than anything. I don’t know if statistics are available but I’d guess Mick hasn’t lost control and gone off any more than average across the grid, it’s just that on a couple of occasions it’s happened to have more severe consequences because of the speeds involved and the location and orientation of the barriers.

I don’t think it’s a sign of worse driving if Schumacher hits a barrier after spinning off vs Sainz spinning into gravel for example, both equal mistakes and the rest is a result of the track design. There is no real competitive reason to take less risk when there are walls past the track edge compared to gravel, a DNF is a DNF.

I don't know how accurate these stats are but interesting read

The outcome is not comparable but that’s not really in the driver’s hands, it’s just luck and a quirk of any given track design.