Random EV thoughts.....

the_amazing_raisin · 12-10-2022 08:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736036#Comment_119736036

Maybe, but still produces CO2, and it's got the same caveats associated with biofuels like land usage, CO2 emissions from production and cost

The reason the shipping industry uses bunker fuel isn't down to any kind of efficiency, it's because it's cheap and no-one else wants it

Fantana2 · 12-10-2022 09:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736446#Comment_119736446

Cost and energy density. We never needed to be massively efficient as fossil fuels are so energy dense. Same as ICE cars and EVs just on a much larger scale.

MightyMunster · 12-10-2022 10:36PM

Haha yes was talking about BIK, it's been a big topic this week with everyone I know in company cars trying to decide what to do 🤦

mc2022B2TF · 12-10-2022 11:03PM

I know business owners who have sold their bev to themselves at a massive loss but then rebought it personally.

Middleman involved but most business owners want out of a bev that is a few years old.

cannco253 · 14-10-2022 01:25PM

in case you missed this

https://www.businesspost.ie/post-plus/engineers-seek-to-raise-e500k-to-turn-old-car-batteries-into-green-power-units/

liamog · 14-10-2022 02:36PM

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-macan-ev-delayed-due-vw-software-woes

I'm sure eventually Cariad will pay off for VAG, but for the moment it's looking more like bringing the software in-house was a bad idea. Vehicle manufacturers have been integrators of OEM parts for years, moving to entirely in-house development is a much bigger task than expected.

unkel · 14-10-2022 03:28PM

@liamog - "I'm sure eventually Cariad will pay off for VAG"

You're more sure than I am 😁

mc2022B2TF · 14-10-2022 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119743596#Comment_119743596

just sell a few visas in China and bobs their uncle

wassie · 14-10-2022 09:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744445#Comment_119744445

Im with you Unkel. This is what sets Tesla apart from the rest - they are not just a manufacturer, but also a software company.

slave1 · 15-10-2022 05:39AM

Big cruise ships will never go battery electric, will have to follow their big submarine cousins with nuclear electric and refuel intervals in the years

unkel · 15-10-2022 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119747082#Comment_119747082

I very much doubt it. Far too expensive. And no need to go fully underwater 😂

They will go hydrogen.

Fantana2 · 15-10-2022 11:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119747082#Comment_119747082

With nuclear you basically pay your fuel bill up front. I can’t see this happening, ports will take some convincing to allow them in and remember cruise ships have people onboard, a lot would refuse to go on a nuclear vessel. Cargo is easier to convince, but cargo companies won’t go nuclear as they will never pay for it.

the_amazing_raisin · 15-10-2022 01:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119747662#Comment_119747662

Yeah I don't think many cruise lines are going to be too happy with a $12 billion bill for a new cruise ship

They don't need a lot of endurance, few days max, so refueling with hydrogen in several ports is quite viable

Also, now that you've said it, you know that the next luxury item for millionaires will be a cruise on a submarine 😂

unkel · 15-10-2022 02:22PM

Have you ever been on a submarine? It's brutal, particularly if you're over 1.6m and over 60kg 😂

I doubt someone would pay for a holiday on one, or they must be crazy.

LasersGoPewPew · 15-10-2022 03:58PM

I see the polestar 3 was launched yesterday prices starting from €101k. The prices seems crazy to me compared to the MY.

Gumbo · 15-10-2022 04:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119748474#Comment_119748474

Its not a Model Y competitor though.

More a Porsche Cayenne/Mecan/Audi eTron kind of field.

unkel · 15-10-2022 04:00PM

Why on earth would anyone buy a Chinese large SUV like that over a premium European one like say a BMW iX or an Audi fat etron? Over €100k is simply insane

I thought these would be a bit more sensibly priced around the €60k mark

the_amazing_raisin · 15-10-2022 04:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119748186#Comment_119748186

https://www.mysubmarines.com/mk3.html

Proof that you can sell anything 😉

Put a couple of bunks in, some MREs and a bucket to do your business in and you can enjoy that authentic U Boat experience 😱

Also I think it's electric, so you can sell it as an eco friendly holiday 😁

JohnC. · 15-10-2022 08:50PM

BMW are to stop making the electric Mini in the UK and moving it to their Great Wall partners in China. As is already the case with some other BMWs. They say the UK plant isn't efficient at making both ICE and EV, so it'll just do ICE. It will probably be converted to EV at some point in the future, by stripping it out and putting in a Great Wall assembly line.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/15/bmw-axe-uk-production-electric-mini-relocate-china

the_amazing_raisin · 15-10-2022 10:38PM

Looks like it's results season

https://www.electrive.com/2022/10/15/volkswagen-electric-car-deliveries-are-up-in-2022/

Decent performance from VW, but sales in Europe were basically flat this year due to shortages

Main driver of growth was China and US

unkel · 15-10-2022 10:51PM

Good to see progress but only 1 in 16 of the vehicles they are selling is full EV. And that is from the car manufacturer incumbent that is most invested in going electric. The pace is frustratingly low though. Still. Even now all of us, even the retard down the pub, knows the future is electric.

the_amazing_raisin · 15-10-2022 11:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119749912#Comment_119749912

It's not the best performance for sure, VW seem to have gutted production from their other brands to keep their own EVs going out the door.

I guess shortages are having an effect, but I also think their focus is elsewhere, they want to get their Chinese brands performing better

Interestingly, I'm pretty sure there's a lot more ID.4s selling in Ireland this year. Partly down to it releasing midway through last year, but I also wonder is VW a bit less focused on some other European countries

unkel · 15-10-2022 11:30PM

VW is hardly concentrating their sales effort on Ireland 😂

That said, it's great to say many ID.4 around. Particularly taxis. Every time I see an ID.4 taxi (and there is one in the estate next to me) I smile and think: you clever man!

AndyBoBandy · 16-10-2022 08:13AM

I also think the taxi’s are brilliant advertisements for going EV as naturally enough anyone getting into the back of one with a half an idea of maybe going electric will be asking questions about it etc…….

I love seeing Taxi EV’s, and there are a lot of them in Fingal..

cannco253 · 16-10-2022 10:33AM

I read this morning that on an MG5 you can release the parking brake and put the car in drive WHILE it’s connected to a type 2 charger ?? You can’t drive but you can roll the car. Not sure if it applies to all MGs.

Sounds crazy to me…any other cars do this?

the_amazing_raisin · 16-10-2022 02:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119750819#Comment_119750819

Well I'm definitely not going to try in either of the cars. Someone else can figure that out 🙂

Being able to release the parking brake makes a bit of sense. If the interlock is jammed for example and the car thinks it's plugged in, then you'd need to be able to release the brake to tow the car

Being able to put the car in drive would be pretty silly though

JohnC. · 16-10-2022 05:35PM

European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association compare EU countries on how many public charge points per 100km. I know that doesn't tell the whole story, where you can have density in places and holes in others. But I thought people might be interested anyway. Ireland are 18 out of 28. 1.6/100km. They also say 15.8% of car sales in Ireland are EV (of a plug-in variety).

They also point out that the vast majority are not fast chargers. Fast defined as above 22kW. Across the EU, 1 in 7 are fast.

https://www.acea.auto/press-release/electric-cars-6-eu-countries-have-less-than-1-charger-per-100km-of-road-1-charger-in-7-is-fast/

unkel · 16-10-2022 08:00PM

Netherlands: 64.3 charge points per 100km of road

Ireland: 1.6 charge points per 100km of road

We have a loooooong way to go here

Alkers · 16-10-2022 10:14PM

Is that per km of road or per km of national road which would be a far more significant metric really?

We have quite a high total length of road per capita / area of landmass.

mfceiling · 17-10-2022 12:16PM

Ignorance, stupidity or laziness? Couldn't possibly park in the relatively empty car park and walk the 20 metres to Dealz. Much easier to park in the "clearly marked" EV charging area directly outside the front door of it.

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