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The Pushback against Leftism

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Where exactly did I say that; "what people get up to sexually is never anyone's else's business"?



  • Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Between consenting adults its non of anyones business what people get up to and neither is it a matter for law enforcement. Its amazing that the supposed champions of personal freedom of speech don't get this simple principle.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Andrew Doyle has really come into his own in the last year or so.

    Incisive, reasoned, logical, well backed-up monologues. He's gay, too - so he, like me, understands perfectly well the conflict that exists between some trans rights and gay rights. But he also addresses the conflicts between some trans rights and women's rights, too. Same with the whole cancel culture stuff. I recently purchased his book about how the left have gone too far, The New Puritans its called, and it's a very good read. I recommend it.

    I hope Doyle keeps up the standards of these monologues. There's a very stark contrast between his calm, reasoned, insightful, unabusive and open approach to dialogue versus the angry, illogical, unreasonable, dogmatically closed approach that characterizes much of the modern far left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Thats cultural appropriation and Im against that!!! 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It would shock people to know that everyone from doctors, lawyers, politicians, boards users, postmen, policemen, fireman, road workers, homebuilders, babysitters, janitors, teachers, librarians, cashiers, disney employees, bank tellers, crossing guards, bus drivers, programmers, influencers, etc. etc. all go home to a bedroom and they have kinks.

    People interact with your kids every **** day and, very separately, have sex lives of their own.

    Being employed in a capacity serving children, and having a sex life, are not mutually exclusive. Is there more to this auxtrage that actually links this person to sexual activity with a minor? Because I haven't been informed in this thread if that's the case - @eskimohunt who is trudging this agenda along hasn't said, and has instead offered counterfactual arguments.



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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One of the many reasons that Mermaids is being investigated is the lack of due diligence the organization has performed re: safeguarding of children.

    One of the trustees to Mermaids spoke at a conference sympathetic to paedophiles in 2011, but he only resigned last week when it was exposed that he was a trustee of Mermaids.

    Dr Jacob Breslow, assistant professor of gender and sexuality at the London School of Economics (LSE), had been a trustee of Mermaids since July 2022. In 2011, Breslow gave a presentation at a conference in Baltimore, Maryland organised by B4U-ACT.

    B4U-ACT was founded in 2003 by Russell Dick, a social worker, and Michael Melsheimer, a convicted paedophile. One of its aims is to break down the ‘stigma’ surrounding paedophilia. It stresses on its website that paedophiles ‘often show a desire to protect children and make them happy’. B4U-ACT consistently refers to attraction to minors as a ‘sexuality’. And Breslow’s talk – titled ‘Sexual Alignment: Critiquing sexual orientation, the paedophile, and the DSM V’ – took up precisely this theme.

    No amount of whataboutery can justify this. Try all you like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No amount of whataboutery can justify this. 

    This is literally whataboutery from you regarding your apparent disparagement of the person shown in the photo above as a pedophile themself.

    I ask you to substantiate that and you respond with What About This huh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Are you giving up on the 'staff member sexualising children' claim now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The lgb alliance are out and out transphobic scum

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mermaid's response to Jacob Breslow was as follows:

    The transgender children's charity said: "Mermaids has been made aware of Dr Breslow's historical participation in a conference that is completely at odds with our values.

    "Once notified we took swift and decisive action to investigate. Dr Breslow tendered his notice on the same day.

    "We will be reviewing our processes and procedures in light of this event to make them even more robust.

    So you're no longer arguing against me. You're arguing against Mermaids themselves, who have themselves already condemned Breslow for his sympathetic attitudes toward paedophiles / paedophilia.

    But this isn't good enough.

    When you combine this with breast binders being sent to children as young as 13 against the consent of the child's parents; and when you compare it to how an employee of Mermaids exposed his genitalia in pornographic images and dressed up as a schoolgirl (with the image taken from the POV of looking up to the skirt); there is something seriously wrong with safeguarding children in Mermaids.

    This investigation should have happened years ago.

    Thankfully a UK MP decided to raise this very matter in the House of Commons yesterday (from 32:48) - calling for a criminal investigation, which Truss agreed to.

    Better late than never.

    Mermaids has failed children untrusted to its care.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Destroy trans people, destroy trans rights and then end up being gobshite idiots wondering what happened when lgb rights get attacked next....

    Their entire reason for existence is about destroying everything trans and fùck all to do with lgb.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,701 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Seriously. If this was supposed to be 'young girl' they were the wrong socks :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You're soap boxing over me.

    I'm not arguing, I'm contextualizing.

    I keep asking you for critical context you press on with more whataboutisms, or otherwise poor communication.

    Is Jacob Breslow the person in the picture?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,701 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    There was also this, not the same individual, but ...

    ...of an 11-year-old boy dressed up in Lolita schoolgirl outfit in a “caught in the act” pose, sitting on a bed in a hyper-girlish bedroom, with an adult man also dressed as a fantasy of a school girl.

    This photograph was part of the “Mermaid’s tales” promotion campaign sponsored by Starbucks and promoted by the BBC.

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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    You do understand that he similarly posted highly pornographic photos of his genitalia in the same way?

    And no, don't ask me to share the photos.

    It seems that no matter what staff at Mermaids do - whether it's the paedophile apologist, or the employee posting photos of his genitalia across social media, or that they were sending breast binders to children as young as 12 against the parent's consent - you or your equivalent will come on here and justify their obscene actions through cheap sarcasm and deliberate and wilfully disingenuous remarks.

    But as I've said before, we know the tactic. It doesn't work. We can all see through it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Again, I can only suggest that it doesn't look anything like any school girl or school uniform I've seen, more like a pantomime dame than anything else.

    Do I detect a moving of the goalposts now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Here's a grown woman dressing up as a princess who gained her royalty through a magic pumpkin scheme that is posing with children.

    They charge +$100/head at the front gate.

    image.png

    Where does the "Lolita" part come in? I'm not up on that definition.

    Christ.

    all I have to say to that is I don't find either of the children in these images seductive. And Cinderella, for that matter, looks to have crossed into the Uncanny Valley, so she's not seductive either.



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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If that is the only concern you have to the summary I have just posted then, well...I'm speechless.



  • Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No Straw to small to grab......


    Here's a question to ask - are children banned from pride marches/events because there are some prity dam sexualized costumes and behaviour going on there. Doe's that make gays pedo's ? arseless chaps come to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Are you going to answer a very pedestrian question or not:

    Is the person in the photo Jacob Breslow?



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, it's worse than that. It was a different employee.

    Mermaids is riddled with problems of due diligence re: safeguarding of children. They've failed children more than once, and it's a disgrace. That's why an investigation is taking place. Multiple employees engaged in multiple accounts of a failure to safeguard children through inappropriate activity engaged outside the charity whilst being employed by them. Mermaids have let children down, multiple times.

    They need to be, to borrow a phrase, held "accountable".

    But you'd rather score points rather than condemn what's been happening at Mermaids.

    I have no doubt that when the investigation into Mermaids is complete, there'll be many more skeletons in the closet and the public outrage will be real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    🙏🙏


    But I doubt it. More feigned reaction..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What do you mean by 'posted photos in the same way'? It's quite legal for people to post nudes on social media. Twitter has plenty, OnlyFans and other sides have lots more material. There's nothing wrong with people who work for a children's charity having a sex life, and sharing nudes, if that's what they choose to do, despite your best attempts to smear them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No, it's worse than that. It was a different employee.

    So when I asked you about the employee, and you faffed on about someone who wasn't the employee, and farted about Whatabouteries, it actually bore no direct relation to the employee?

    And you give lectures about points scoring too. **** brilliant antics.

    image.png

    So one employee did something completely normal (had a sex life) and doesn't deserve to be casually insinuated as a pedophile then.

    The other person you want to bleat about presented Pedophila/MAP/Stigmatism issues, no other context? What was the talk?

    I have no doubt that when the investigation into Mermaids is complete, there'll be many more skeletons in the closet and the public outrage will be real.

    Something something baby parts something something project veritas. I think I've heard this genre of music before.

    How many times do people fall for outrage bait without bird in hand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Wow. You're a sock fetishist. You must be a woke leftie.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Is this "lolita?"

    image.png

    Or just a child posing for a photo with a cup

    The page with Jennie shows lots of other images which are very incongruent with the narratives being supplied on thread...

    https://mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/mermaids-tales/



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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know that kind of disingenuous posting style appeals to your base; posting in bad faith, hoping it wins out.

    Everyone else - who have legitimate concerns about children's welfare and safeguarding, and who do not seek to score lame points - can see the bigger picture here. And a much bigger picture it is.

    What's happened with Mermaids is a disgrace.

    Thankfully - eventually, justice is catching up to this organization that calls itself a charity. As far as I'm concerned, that justice cannot come quicker. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.



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