Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Notice how they got the whimper, from that girl who was live-streaming when the missile hit, and spliced it into other footage. Obviously they enjoyed that sound. Made them feel all tingly inside. Sick b*****ds!

Solovyov's certainly changed his tune:

It's called the wilhelm scream I believe.

I genuinely can't believe that's not a satirical video.

No there was no discussion or any agreement,I believe it was mentioned once at a meeting at the state department meeting at camp David (open to correction) .

And that's as far as it went

The rail line is still running, and they have passenger trains still going to crimea, so if they had so much military stuff needing sent theyd probably cancel some of the passenger trains..

On the other hand the revenge attack by Moscow has done serious damage to Ukraine energy infrastructure, 25% demand reduction needing in Ukraine for the next month at least. They've also stopped exporting electricity to Poland (classic Poland showing no sympathy and demanding it is reinstated immediately, unacceptable to stop electricity exports)

If Moscow keep up this pattern of targeting energy infrastructure there will be a full blown humanitarian crisis in Ukraine this winter. Even tens of missiles a day would be enough to disrupt the repairs

Historical conflicts, like maybe WWI & WWII, where the vast vast majority of casualties were from artillery? Yeah artillery hasn't really been used much in this war, has it?

This war looks more like WWII than any modern conflict, from the artillery shelling, dumb bombing/missiles, trench warfare.... Throw in the Nazis, genocide, dictator, Zwastica and we're there.

The Orcs have been abandoning their wounded and running; we've seen what passes for a field hospital on their side, not to mention the intercepted phone call of that wounded soldier still being expected to fight and the hospital being full and overflowing.

The Orcs don't have modern medicine so you really do need to think in terms of historical conflicts.

There's also the possibility in that Lukashenko giving away their armaments that they've just left themselves in a precarious position of being open to an invasion from Russia. Luka probably knew the score in that Putin probably wanted his military decimated in Ukraine so that Russia could roll into Belarus unhindered. He kept his manpower but has given his arms away.

The Brits said last month that there were 80k casualties, including 25k dead. Going with that, if there are 90k casualties now, maybe they're along the lines of 30k dead and 60k wounded/captured/deserted.

Russia has said ~6000 casualties, Ukraine 60k - so 30k would be somewhere in the middle (obviously Russia underreports, and Ukraine overreports).

No I don't. If that were the case then perhaps you should address the entire Ukrainian military who use that and many other terms, a body I would say epitomise the term 'serious', and being the antithesis of 'trivial'.

That being just one example among thousands.

They lost thousands 8 years some estimate to be around 10,000 + just in eastern Ukraine, while ukraine Lost 14,000 altogether,

I Still think the Russian losses are north of 60,000 and a similar number of injured or incapacitated

They're starting to realise, that they are very likely bankrolling the destruction of the country. Because that's one of the only real certainties around the continuation of this conflict. They would like a return on their investment, in the shape of a Russian defeat. But the longer we go without this happening, the more nervous they're getting.

And when the US taxpayer is done financing the complete destruction of Ukraine, they will most likely have to foot the bill for it's complete reconstruction as well. They are well aware of this.

People are starting to wake up to what the final cost of this nonsense is going to be. And it's eye watering sorts of figures. The US and the west does have reasonably deep pockets, but they're not bottomless pits. And many Americans in particular, are starting to ask some uncomfortable questions about what exactly the end game is here. Or is there even a coherent plan at all.