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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Was looking for an old map of Ukraine when there was talk of Russia having some claim to Crimea historically and found this one posted again recently. It is dated from 1919 and as well as showing Crimea to be part of Ukraine it shows areas accepted to be part of Russia like Rostov on the river Don were at that time also part of Ukraine and it had a border with Georgia. The Ukrainians from what I can see are completely right to want to bring their borders back to where they were before the Russian invasion of Crimea in 2014 in spite of anything Elon Musk thinks about it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭rogber


    Wait, you're suggesting that Musk is behind this or had inside knowledge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Scanning through the Russian press, the blowing up of the Crimean bridge is a massive story in their media : way, way bigger than the sinking of the Moskva.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25


    I wouldnt mike to be on a big old slow ferry with ukrainian missiles around either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Lol we're back to talking about Tsar Bombs again. Russia are a country of bullshitters at this stage. Their military have been shown for what they are, rapists, torturers and murderers. Great against civilians absolutely useless against a determined & organised military force.

    The Ukrainians have put it up to Putin and his junta here and if as I expect the Russians do nothing than just take it out on civilian targets the US should then supply ATACMS missiles for the HIMARS systems and other longer range weapons and give Ukraine the tools to expel the Russians quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭rogber


    The strategies, intelligence, training, weapons are all from NATO and US, they're being guided every step of the way.

    But they do need the discipline and tenacity and courage to execute the operations. An excellent example of teamwork



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    The problem is you can't stop the cooling process for years so the fact the reactors are actually shut down really makes no odds, particularly with spent fuel rods which will just heat up again after they were already cooled if you don't keep cooling them for a very long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The fire damage alone would have compromised the structure quite a bit and that's before you take into account the shockwave from the explosion.

    I wouldn't like to be on a heavy goods train carrying extremely heavy items like tanks on this compromised structure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Yeah I understand that NATO have revolutionised how the Ukrainian army operates but for them to do that and have it hold up in battle a mere 8 years later is nothing short of stunning (and a severe indictment of the RU). The Afghan army got twice as much time and a lot more resources and collapsed at the first sign of pressure. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Actually, earlier on there were posts here about a big increase in houses for sale in Crimea. After the bridge bombing, I imagine that property prices in Crimea will plummet. Anyone looking for a bargain, could start looking at Crimea.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Expect to hear a report of how on the 6th hour another supply train falls into the sea because they didn't bother to check the stability of the joints on the burned segment of the rail-bridge.

    Could also be in ok condition...but 5 hours is just plain headless. A day at least to see if the bridge needs to reinforced or if essential parts of the structure haven't been warped by the heat of that fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    What we know:

    One of the road carriageways has been destroyed.

    Ukraine has the ability to attack the Kerch bridge and inflict major damage on it.


    What we don't know:

    If there is any damage to the other roadway or the railway

    How long it will take to repair them if there is.


    This is more a physiological blow than anything but will certainly effect Crimena in the short term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't think anyone is 'downplaying' such a weapon, just the idea that it would swamp Ireland and Britain in one go as Russian state TV boasted about. The numbers like wave height and travel distance aren't necessarily going to uniformly scale up as you increase the explosive yield, for one thing and if you detonate too close to shore to try and mitigate that, you don't have as much volume of water to move. To get an idea of what a nuclear torpedo of, say, 10MT could do, it might be a good idea to contrast the energy contained within to the surface energy of large tsunami-event earthquakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,013 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Disaster girl Kersk bridge.jpg

    Should have known.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Yeah it's nothing new if you have been following the situation in Ukraine over the last 8+ year's,the Americans have been on the ground in Ukraine training forces right up until the invasion,last summer they had a joint exercise with the US Marines and the guys girls who defended Mariupol so valiantly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Looking at this picture, and the way the bridge dips lower, it does seem like the perfect spot for a Boat attack.

    Was the train in the same spot just a coincidence? Or also part of the plan?


    I also noted in some of the video footage, that the sea looked quite rough!! Maybe this was just weather-related and it just sank!!🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭weisses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    I was called out a few times myself as I didn't have the right information. Had to sit down for a while to look at all the variables.

    Nukes were what drew the line with me, that's not cool. FFS that's it lights out.

    I remember the end of the planet of the apes, and your man on the beach and the statue of liberty in the sand.

    That's one scary moment, on the beach on a horse with his lady, quite romantic and finalized. Then comes the horror and macabre......



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    That map was just a wishlist for Ukrainian nationalists, based on any place there were any Ukrainian speakers at all (hence the Cossack areas in the east)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Just seen a map on Sky News and it shows Russians advancing in Kherson positions?


    Is that correct, also seemed the advances are in territory Ukraine reclaimed last week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This is from last night (so before the Kerch bridge explosion)


    If Solovyov was demanding the destruction of Ukrainian civil infrastructure before this morning's explosion I can't imagine what he will be demanding afterwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    This Russian "Tsar" bomb. Is it even real? Is this a real life weapon that could be deployed, or another "hypersonic" boogeyman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It was real - it was detonated in a 50s test by the Soviets. Claimed to have a 50MT yield, the largest ever deployed.

    Whether the Russians currently have something that big in their arsenal, doesn't seem to be currently known, or at least I don't know about it if it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    "We need to win the same way our grandfathers won during the years of the Great Patriotic War, with a wholehearted faith in the Motherland, in our commanders, and out commanders having faith in the soldiers".

    Yeah.. lemme pull up the stats on Russian casualties in WW2, and remind everyone that in that war, the West was supplying Russia with equipment and munitions. Now it's the other way round.


    Love the last line "And who needs the world if there is no Russia in it?". 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭rogber


    Looks they're doing it right now (according to BBC)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Solovyov's reaction on social media is to go all Goebbels 1943 and demand 'Total War' against Ukraine. Presumably he will be ranting about this on his TV show tonight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,013 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It was real. It blew out windows in Norway and Sweden with a flash seen 1000km away. Whether there were any more made... perhaps the CIA knows.



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