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Civil Service - Post Lockdown - Blended Working?

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  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yeah the majority of depts and people ive spoken to seem to be implementing it reasonably well and people are quite satisfied?


    im as surprised as anyone about that, if im honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Revenue Audit & Compliance is 2 days office based with one of those days being an 'anchor' day agreed by each section. 3 days WFH. This is all subject to business needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭BhoyRayzor


    As someone who hasn't had the time to read it in full is that specifically stated or just given as an example? I have heard of cases of 2 or 3 days a month being applied for and approved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭BhoyRayzor


    Not everywhere. Maybe just for new staff to facilitate training and onboarding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    I should have maybe been more specific in that my Division, audit are required back 2 days per week regardless of being new or old staff and again its dependent on business needs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    I finally got around to it - but as 1st October seems to be a kick-off date for official Blended Working for some departments, maybe better that I was lazy 😀

    The link to the new survey is https://forms.gle/55tQJ3FcP68Zn2KA7

    For those who hadn't come across it before (I also ran a survey in June) this basically collects some data on what each government department and some of the bigger agencies are doing around Blended Working. The framework came out on 31st March, so most places should have their own policy in place by now.

    No personal info is collected, don't include any identifying info in answers, please. The last question is free-form text and I'll post up some of the interesting responses here unless asked not to. Or they're defamatory. 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    87 responses to date. I'll leave it open until the weekend and post results here.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78


    Does anyone know what they mean on the blended working guidebook about not being allowed to work outside of the state except in circumstances where someone resides in Northern Ireland? If I were to move to Northern Ireland or even just go up that way for a few days and work in a family members house would that be ok?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    If it's just for a few days would you not just let your manager know that you'll be working from another location for the few days and once they know then you are covered? If it's a long term thing and you are going to move then you'd have to look into it officially. I imagine there are alot of people who live across the border and work in the civil service in towns near like Dundalk etc and they had to be covered in the document/policy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78


    True I probably should let them know. Not sure I’d move there but who knows with property prices and rent prices it might make sense to. Thank you for the reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    You might want to check the IT policy. Many places geo lock any access from out side the state except though secure channels like the organizations own VPN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78


    That is mainly what I was concerned about and also being tracked. Not sure where I would find the IT policy, but I’ll try looking for it. Thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Could you not just ask IT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,916 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They should be doing that (VPN) for all access from outside their own network whether from within the state or not. Assuming bad actors won't appear to be using an Irish IP is just stupid tbh.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    There may not be that limitation for customers (users) only staff. They might provide services for people outside the state.

    Depending on your role you might need a VPN or you might not.

    No idea what the op role or the systems they use. But it's something someone should check if they are planning to work outside the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78


    I guess maybe I’ll find out someday, I wouldn’t work outside of the island of Ireland but I guess it’s the same difference really as Northern Ireland is a different jurisdiction, my main worry was setting off a trigger warning by logging in through a Northern Ireland internet connection but probably wouldn’t be worth it just for the sake of three days. Don’t fancy losing my job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 LouLousharoo


    Just got a FAQ doc. Any hours built up from WFH will be wiped when it goes into the next flexi period. I have 4 hours built up because it is a busy time of year so they are going to vanish and it's 4 hours down the drain. Where the heck is our union on this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 WonderWall78


    Is that just your department? As I’ve got 5 hours built up, don’t fancy losing them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Your employer's ICT policy will be on their intranet and you probably have a hard copy you signed on your first day there. There's every possibility it doesn't mention remote access at all if it's not been updated since 2020. Why wouldn't you just mail your ICT unit or HR unit (depending on who issues your usage policy), and ask them if you can connect remotely from NI for 3 days? It's not like civil servants don't bring laptops to Brussels or Strasbourg.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    We reverted back to what time was on your clock pre covid...so some lost and some gained!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 LouLousharoo


    Not sure if it is civil service wide, but it covers my whole organisation as it came from central HR. Could be different in other departments depending on what kind of flexi trial they are doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's quite a common Flexi time condition, so people don't build up massive hours then all take them at the same busy time. Surprised CS didn't have this before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,659 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    There’s plenty of people in border areas that might live in NI, but work in ROI (office based). So it sounds like the policy specifically mentioning NI is to ensure those people aren’t excluded

    Realistically no one is checking to see where someone is for a ‘few days’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Usually find out when they contact IT because they can't connect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭crinkley


    I have worked from NI for short periods with zero problems, and I’m sure there are many more. I took the policy as you can’t be out in an apartment in Spain for 6 months “working from home”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 LouLousharoo


    The WFH hours are separate from flexi. With flexi 10:30 can be carried forward into the next flexi period. Going by this FAQ doc any WFH hours in surplus, be it 1 hour or 10 hours will revert to 0 once we go into the next flexi period. If someone ends up working extra hours and is unable to take them within that flexi period they vanish. Over the year this would be quite alot of hours. The flexi system allows for the 10: 30 to carry over until they are used up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭crinkley


    I should also add people in my team have used their work laptops in America, Asia and across Europe. The only issue may be with the Wi-Fi available requiring a sign in page and the vpn set up doesn’t like that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭adelcrowsmel


    Didn't know you were talking about a build up of hour working from home. We've never been allowed to work up hours when working from home, any extra time you put in wasn't given back.



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