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Bass Reeves · 07-10-2022 12:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711402#Comment_119711402

We were discussing why a double tap to the body and where it came from.

DP is actually a police originated tactic not originally a military tactical shooting skill even though they adapted it. The one to the head is a special forces/ military addition to the technique.

Double tap was actually developed for two reasons originally. The first was that the second shot brought you eye in better as for the first shot you might not have your hands fully extended. The second shot was more capable of permanently disabling an opponent.

The second reason for the DP was the use of full metal jacket rounds. A FMJ round was more likely to penetrate without doing enough damage to disable as previously lead rounds which had the ability to expand and tumble therefore causing more damage.

The DP was developed further by the military in that you had to reaquire your target for the second shot. With constant training the two shots are fired close togeather and are not taught to be a controlled shooting by an untrained person

In a police situation you did not want Police officers firing uncontrolled in area where there was people especially with the advent of FMJ.

FMJ's were becoming more popular because as they also offered secure automatic reloading. That is they limited the probability of jamming.

xxxxxxl · 07-10-2022 12:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711426#Comment_119711426

Interesting you learn something new everyday thanks for the update. Always open to correction and learning something.

cnocbui · 07-10-2022 12:59AM

Asked what Australia could do to help Ukraine, Zelensky said the Albanese government had been preparing a “significant package” of assistance that will be announced soon.

“This process is ongoing as we speak and I’m very grateful to that,” he said. “It’s not only small arms but heavy weapons as well.”

Zelensky said that, for the upcoming round of assistance, Australia had been negotiating with other countries to announce a joint support package for Ukraine.

Ukrainian Ambassador to Australia Vasyl Myroshnychenko has publicly asked Australia to provide Ukraine with a supply of anti-ship missiles known as Harpoons and howitzer long-range weapons.

Ukraine is also asking for an additional fleet of 30 four-wheel drive vehicles on top of the 60 already provided.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addresses the Lowy Institute.Credit:YouTube/Lowy Institute

“Bushmasters really help us on the battlefield,” Zelensky said on Thursday night.

“They preserve the lives of our soldiers on the ground...The more weapons and ammunition we receive - artillery, drones, anti-aircraft, anti-tank, anti-ship missiles - the more Russia would feel the responsibility for violating international law.”

Beyond providing extra military assistance, Zelensky called for nations such as Australia to use their diplomatic clout to ensure there is a resounding condemnation of Russia at an upcoming vote against recent referendums to annex four Ukrainian regions.

Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the Lowy Institute he was looking forward to more military assistance from Australia

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/zelensky-australia-to-deliver-significant-new-support-for-ukraine-20221006-p5bnrm.html

And in a most delicious turning of the tables

Kremlin slams Zelensky’s Australian speech

Ukraine’s leader has sparked a furious response after using an Australian speech to call for a pre-emptive strike against Russia.

In a discussion with the Lowy Institute, Volodymyr Zelensky suggested NATO should launch preventive strikes to rule out any Russian use of nuclear weapons.

“What should NATO do? Make it impossible for Russia to use nuclear weapons,” he told the Australian think tank.

Zelensky did not go into specific detail about what kind of strikes he meant.

However, Russia has been quick to denounce his comments.

“Such statements are nothing other than an appeal to start yet another world war with unpredictable, monstrous consequences,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Peskov's response would indicate Putin has been bluffing as he sounds positively scared.

Well played, Mr Zelensky, smoked them out nicely.

Strazdas · 07-10-2022 01:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711432#Comment_119711432

Ukraine has already said Zelensky was completely misquoted btw and wasn't suggesting anything about launching pre-emptive nuclear strikes against Russia.

xxxxxxl · 07-10-2022 02:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711447#Comment_119711447

I often wonder what trump meant by an attack you never seen the likes of. Loads of MOABS ? some kind of kinetic weapon on satellite platforms. Like the Odin system from COD tungsten rods.

07-10-2022 02:52AM

US President Joe Biden has said the world is facing the biggest threat of nuclear "Armageddon" since the days of President Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Speaking at a Democratic Party fundraiser in New York, his 'off camera' comments were overheard by journalists from the White House pool.

Describing Russian President Vladimir Putin, President Biden said he had "got to know the guy pretty well".

"He's not joking when he talks about the use of tactical nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons because his military is you might say significantly underperforming."

"First time since the Cuban missile crisis, we have a direct threat of the use nuclear weapon if in fact things continue down the path they are going," he said.

Mr Biden said he and US officials were searching for a diplomatic off-ramp.

"I'm trying to figure out what is Putin's off-ramp?" he said. "Where does he find a way out? Where does he find himself in a position that he does not only lose face but lose significant power within Russia?

"We have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis."

He added: "I don't think there's any such thing as the ability to easily (use) a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with Armageddon.

"I didn't realise how much serious damage the previous administration did to our foreign policy."

07-10-2022 03:03AM

house to house fighting is very intense

A very close encounter

One thing is for sure,he wont be getting up again

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1578120114947457025?s=20&t=j7ZIe_5eWOizKDXrKmW9Aw

xxxxxxl · 07-10-2022 03:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711479#Comment_119711479

looking at it further he had his pants up so not taking a crap. glad there was no blood tbh though.

07-10-2022 03:11AM

So people changes sides all off a sudden because of Russias invasion,why am i not surprised.

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1578148355603333120?s=20&t=USZaKQ0jVf1EsNfjwEQxhQ

RoyalCelt · 07-10-2022 03:43AM

On the whole nuke thing. China would turn their backs on Russia if they did it. If war broke out the eastern cities of Russia could be hit with nukes and the fall out would affect China. They need stability right now not nuclear threats.

Even if only one small nuke goes off or the power plant blows up at the very least China will suffer economically with increased sanctions which would cover anyone who deals with Russia.

They'd also have to publicly condemn Russia and paint them as the bad guy's. The same goes for India and Turkey would turn even more against Russia.

Then there's the nuclear fallout which would blow into Russia. It's a lose lose situation for Putin. Now vague nuclear threats are a win as it scares the **** out of westerners who are afraid of Ukraine making "too" much progress.

Polar101 · 07-10-2022 04:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711498#Comment_119711498

The threat of nukes is the main strength Russia has. And it's a real threat. But using a tactical nuke would be a catastrophic mistake - it wouldn't achieve much on the battlefield, and it would completely isolate Russia from the rest of the world. And it would make China (and India) Russia's enemies.

Winds generally blow east.. so fallout in Ukraine would affect the country east of Ukraine.

I think I'm pretty much just repeating what you already said, so I agree completely.

07-10-2022 05:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711170#Comment_119711170

Ah, it won’t be Russia related. It’ll be anti guberment stuff. He and his voting base against the establishment will be his and Clare’s shtick.

cheese sandwich · 07-10-2022 05:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711504#Comment_119711504

Is there any evidence that India and China would decisively turn against Putin if he used a tactical nuke? I doubt they would be happy about it privately but they’ve stuck with him after he launched a brutal war of occupation on the most pathetic pretext ever - I wouldn’t be confident that they would break with him unless he went completely insane and threatened to wipe out London or Paris or something similar

07-10-2022 05:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711120#Comment_119711120

Is the person in the bog talking?

seems doubt about legitimacy. Angle of gun firing seems wrong.

dennis72 · 07-10-2022 05:50AM

Where would Russia explode a nuke for best effect

I think western Ukraine or odessa

Civilians are viable targets in putler's sick mind already a mass murderer

The 96hours of US/NATO involvement sees Russia anialated

There should post nuke war gaming preparations displays

Nuke threat climb down will be a disaster for the west

Asdfgh2020 · 07-10-2022 06:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711393#Comment_119711393

You seem to have an excessive almost obsessive knowledge about how to ‘kill’……are you American / texian perhaps or an ex-Marine

EOQRTL · 07-10-2022 06:17AM

No no not the BOMB

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-first-time-since-the-cuban-missile-crisis-we-have-a-direct-threat-of-the-use-nuclear-weapons-says-president-biden-12714106

Someone needs to tell the American president the experts on Boards.ie aren't worried.

EOQRTL · 07-10-2022 06:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119710958#Comment_119710958

And this folks is why Twitter is a cesspit. More fake news.

Gregor Samsa · 07-10-2022 06:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711471#Comment_119711471

I very much doubt Trump actually meant anything by that statement. I think it was just his usual hyperbole. It’s unlikely he knew the difference between the various options. This was a man who inquired about the use of nuclear weapons to stop hurricanes.

DrumSteve · 07-10-2022 07:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711552#Comment_119711552

To be fair, he can hardly come out and say Putin is definitely bluffing. Biden is pretty much forcing his hand if he does that.

By playing to his ego, he's more likely to not do it.

rogber · 07-10-2022 07:20AM

Despite the hundreds of terminal medical diagnoses he's received on this thread since last winter, Putin turns 70 today. Obviously his body is a bit more robust than his country's military.

I, for one, wish him an awful birthday and a thoroughly miserable new decade marked by defeat, isolation, and humiliation.

Francie Barrett · 07-10-2022 07:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711152#Comment_119711152

I see your "Russia is using chemical weapons" card, but I raise you my "Putin is dying card" and my "Russian army is running out of stuff to fight with" card 😜

briany · 07-10-2022 07:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711625#Comment_119711625

I would like to join you in wishing Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin a very, very crappy birthday.

o1s1n · 07-10-2022 07:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711552#Comment_119711552

Whats this 'the BOMB' nonsense I keep seeing posted?

It reminds me of knuckle dragging Trump supporters saying 'Orange Man Bad' as some kind of 'witty' rebuke.

rogber · 07-10-2022 07:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711613#Comment_119711613

It'd be kind of funny if he did though. "Putin, Russia, the BOMB? Hahaha I bet none of their nuclear weapons even work." Just to see what would happen

rogber · 07-10-2022 07:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711655#Comment_119711655

That just about sums it up. It's a favourite term from the "death to the orcs" crowd who think any talk of nuclear weapons is a big joke

Gatling · 07-10-2022 07:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711642#Comment_119711642

At least one of those is true....

Viscount Aggro · 07-10-2022 07:51AM

3 targets in Ireland, it was revealed a few years ago.

Better to be at ground zero if it happens.

Gatling · 07-10-2022 07:56AM

I see the orc in the jacks video was pulled from twitter,

Kermit.de.frog · 07-10-2022 07:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711552#Comment_119711552

No US president says that lightly.

One nuclear weapon gets detonated and suddenly we'll see sobering up in populations across Europe.

People beforehand may fob it off but once they see it it's going to change things from good intentions to the realisation that this is actually very dangerous for everyone.

We need to get out of this position and I don't think Ukraine regaining all it's territory and particularly attacking Crimea is in anyone's interests.

I don't think that's sunk in yet.

Speaking for myself, I wish them the best but I'm not willing to risk nuclear war for Ukraine.

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