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Kaliningrad.

Last night, a US Navy Strike Hawk was advertising the presence of the Amphibious Task Force as it checked some approaches into Kaliningrad. Closest I've seen it operate near the Oblast/Enclave.

There are 35 million men of military age (16-49) in Russia.

And probably all the civilian population they moved into Russia or they would be just forging voting papers with those civilians names on them

The Ru embassy in another country eg Uk , could be acredited to ireland. There are presidents. Sudan for example is /was covered from the Egyptian embassy

Huh?

In the 70s and 80s where communication didn't really exist for the vast vast majority, people were much more tense, I'd argue ignorance was bliss?

I just spent the last 7 months watching war and war crimes in 4K sometimes live, compared to the 70s and 80s where you might hear a war reporter on the radio for less than 60 seconds.

Also during that time we had a bit of a "war" going on ourselves.

All out war would be the end of russia

"I find the opposite to you as the way forward, efforts should be made to pursue a ceasefire and stop the atrocities."

Of course you do. TEAM ru is having their asses handed to them, and it's only the start of it.

Beyond the public messaging, The Hill is reporting that discussions and messages are ongoing via 'backchannels,' which in my experience is how most negotiations with the Soviet Union and the Putler Federation have taken place in the past.

IMO by the time Reagan was publicly buddying up with Gorbachev, the Soviet Union shutdown was well negotiated.

To attempt to draw an equivalence between the scale and extent of Russian war crimes versus Ukraine is a false one.

If you don't acknowledge this then your position in is morally and intellectually bankrupt position. So spare us errant nonsense about lacking in logic and reason.

Atrocities don't stop just because there's a ceasefire when Russia is involved. They have carried out war crimes and atrocities on a daily basis including towards civilians in areas under their control. You would have to be a fool to trust in Russia's tender mercies towards any Ukranians left under Russian controlled territory. It would be like arguing for peace in Europe in 1942 and leaving Germany in possession of France.

And a ceasefire would just be a truce unless Russia are stopped, and Ukraine has secure borders it can defend and alliances into the future that guarantee its security and allow it to rebuild after this illegal invasion and attempt to extinguish it as an country and turn it into a Russian colony. Zero evidence Russia is willing to accede to such a position.

That was reported as actually happening in Russia as we speak people people deported from Russia are voting on the referendum ,

But no photos or filming allowed as the boxes have the Russian coat of arms on the ballot boxes

Looks like NASAMs are not in Ukraine as reported yesterday,

Not a great situation

Lest you forget, pre-1940's America wasn't exactly a bastion for tolerance. Violence is a thing in America, and the internment camp movement started post-Pearl Harbor. In fact, Canada and Mexico and some countries in South America had internment camps, too. America was not a bastion of civil rights prior to the 1960's.

As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bomb projects were military top secret, the general public heard nothing about them until they went off. IMO as military strategy they were entirely justified, but that's a discussion item for another thread.

If a ceasefire is to happen, Ukraine would be within its rights to ask Russia for a couple of concessions such as accounting for the people who Russia has deported out of occupied areas and agreeing not to implement the results of its sham referendums by calling certain areas of Ukraine 'Russia'.

The reality of war seems to be that ceasefires are only agreed if public/political/strategic pressures are such that they happen. If Ukraine feels like it has the upper hand and that Russia would only use a ceasefire to recuperate for a new push later, it's easier to understand why they wouldn't go for a ceasefire right now. War has to be one of the most regrettable things in existence, but Ukraine didn't start it, and Russia can end it tomorrow by packing up and going home, but less and less does Mr. Putin talk of peace. If anything, his rhetoric is becoming angrier and more bitter.

That gunman in the Russian school - could it be a false flag a la the apartment bombings of the early 00’s? BBC reporting the gunman was wearing Nazi insignia, could this be an orchestrated attack by the kremlin to win over public opinion? “Look lads, those Nazis we’re trying to eradicate are attacking our people on our land, they must be stopped”. Would make for an easier time convincing the clowns there for conscription….just my initial thoughts.