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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Because those legging to the border are those with resources and who either a) weren't going to be called up anyway as the elite couldn't stand for their children or those of their acolytes being called up or b) were in a position to bribe whichever corrupt official it was necessary to bribe to avoid the call up.

    Wouldn't be surprised if at least a significant portion of those "fleeing" were given the heads up from some local official they had a connection to. "Leave the country for two weeks Sergei. By that time we will have rounded up enough of the Turkic / Uralic / Causcasian / Mongolic...minorites to fill the numbers"



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I mean, that is even less believable than him using a nuke against Ukraine. It would mean the immediate destruction of Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    As always the two main factors in this war are NATO supplies and nukes. That's the balance of the thing, so anybody making (short term) predictions better get a crystal ball. The longer term prediction is that Russia is screwed, no matter what happens.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,350 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    No, it is a propaganda arm of a now openly hostile + aggressive state (which neither FOX or CNN are...). I suppose it could be tolerated under aegis of allowing "freedom of speech" pre Feb of this year, but not post. It's not like the Russian internal TV either. It is/was aimed towards somewhat gullible and confused Westerners, receptive to the messages.

    Not a viewer either but from what I have read about the content + how it operat(ed), it was a seemingly "normal" news channel but stories will be picked and presented to always give views that the Kremlin wants to put across in the West or achieve its goals on a given day. Afair that was mainly just nihilism, promoting chaos and internal divisions in what Russia/Putin believed were its "enemies", spreading FUD about the place.

    Very similar IMO to how Soviet outward-facing propaganda about the US/West etc. used to operate during the Cold war, but much more effective (a slick & modern TV station + website etc. vs some odd-ball grotty shop run by Soviet sympathisers perhaps flogging pamphlets and newspapers to "useful idiots"!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Except that if Putin believes he is going to die, then he will not have any compunction about taking the rest of the world with him.,,,and he is definitely that crazy. His actions with the lives of his own people prove that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    He's not going to attack a NATO country, only a fool would believe he was.

    We'd one beaut on here last night who thought he'd be rolling into Warsaw by now if he'd succeeded in capturing Ukraine. This level of stupidity is astounding. Russian forces would be decimated if they even poked their small dicks over a NATO border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    The ones in the Airports are the wealthy Russians from Moscow and Petersburg etc they won’t be manhandled into the back of a truck. Flights from Russia to Istanbul etc are in the region of 10k most ordinary Russians can’t afford them .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Russian artillery conducted 4 missile strikes and 27 air strikes, conducted over 75 shelling with MLRS against 45 settlements across Ukraine, including Pechenihy, Pryshyb, Yarova, Spirne, Vesele, Bakhmut, Maryinka, Krasnohorivka, Kostyantynivka, Neskuchne, Poltavka, Yehorivka, Bezimenne, Kryvyi Rih, Bilohirya, Zaporizhzhia, Bilohirka, Pervomaiske, Mykolaiv, Ochakiv, Vysokopillia, Sukhiy Stavok, Myrolyubvika, Novohryhorivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

    no ghosts being given up at the moment

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    No, I don't think the west can/should pull the rug out now and leave Ukraine to the mercy of the Russians.

    That would leave very little scope for a negotiated peace.

    But we should be trying to get both sides closer to negotiating, rather than betting on the obscure prospect that Russia might get war weary and just decide to give up and go home. Because that's a very dangerous wager to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    If Vladdy wanted to threaten the west with nukes he would have done so. This is the classic russian pattern, Vlad makes a vague but threatening reference and his media then amplify it up to a threat of total destruciton.

    He tries to use nuclear weapons then he has lost, and the people around him know that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Ukrainian military repelled Russian attacks near Kupyansk, Spirne, Mayorsk, Zaitseve, Avdiivka, Novomykhailivka, Opytne and Kamyanka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

    no front line breaks west of Donetsk this morning

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,400 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Estonia understands perfectly the situation. They've been through it before.

    What point is there letting in Russian males of fighting age who oppose the war and regime and want to leave Russia when they are needed in Russia to bring about change. It's cowardice. Not what their fathers would have done.

    The only way change happens is from within Russia and by It's people. Every male at risk of conscription who wants to leave is a pair of boots on the ground in Russia who if pushed more will take to the streets against Putin's regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    So people who've just joined the site aren't allowed have an opinion or it's too be ridiculed? Maybe that's why Boards isn't as popular as before?

    A bit of a clique attitude has prevailed here it seems which is sad. Surely if one doesn't agree with another's perspective or opinions it's better to discuss in an attempt to enforce ones point of view?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Interesting points. But consider:

    1. The missiles are hypersonic, travelling at Mach 10+. The West have no means to counter such missiles, that we know of.

    2. As a demonstrative "shot across the bow" to the West, and as hypothesised elsewhere, the target may not be Ukraine-based. There are plenty of places in the Baltic Sea where a detonation could occur in order to get Ukraine to back off if, for example, HIMARS came within range of Sevastapol and its ports.

    3. The missile would be fired from within Russian controlled airspace. The aircraft would never leave Russian TAS. They are already doing this from the North towards the Donbas.

    4. It's hugely significant that the Mig-31's have been moved to Kaliningrad. They were Russias answer to the SR-71. They are also one of the few aircraft in the Russian Airforce capable of killing satellites, which would be one of the 1st moves during or just before a nuclear strike. The reasons for this are a whole other subject.

    5. None of the above. Of course, these are all just theories of mine taking into account various OSINT observations, opinions of folks in the game, aircraft movements etc. Going by how surprising some actions of both sides have been, who knows. There are also many in Russian media channels and independent observers mentioning that Putins comments did not refer to the use of a WMD in Ukraine, but in the West somewhere.

    My gut feeling is that there would be two detonations to try to convince the West to recalibrate their actions. The first, which in my opinion will happen fairly soon, will be a test detonation ( North Korea style) under the guise of a testing program, to rubbish opinions that their Nuclear arsenal is in a state of disrepair

    Then, if that fails to grab attention, the second will be designed to get the West's undivided attention in a way that would have maximum attention grabbing but minimum damage. My guess is an underwater detonation in either the Black Sea or elsewhere.

    Of course, this is just the opinions of a keyboard warrior. Who knows!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Housefree


    So you have never watched it,have read what to think about it, but the RT viewers are the gullible ones? Maybe you could have watched it and came to your own opinion. Where did you get your info Fox news or CNN?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭storker


    It's more dangerous to set the precedent that all it takes for the democracies to fold is wave your nukes at them. If that stands, then the rest of eastern europe goes too, and Putin wouldn't even need many boots on the ground to achieve it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    That's a great post. You are definitely one of the threads most informative posters.

    My personal opinion is he's much more likely to continue hitting civilian infrastructure with whatever conventional missiles they have in stock which i believe is vast and under estimated and that pace will increase over the coming weeks. If he then feels threatened and it looks like defeat is inevitable then he'll reach for the chemical option. All the nuclear talk is a distraction and he's just playing us all.

    Like you said though we are all just keyboard warriors so who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    "enforce" your point of view? Interesting choice of words. Don't you mean "present"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    That's it one poster has literally bad-mouthed every single link while never providing any of their own .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭storker


    I think people in the west underestimate just how many Russians care about the prestige and image of their country.

    I think the Russians may be overestimating how much the west should or does care about tolerating Putin's sh1t in the name of satisfying the Russian love of national mickey-waving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,454 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Paddypower ain't offering odds on the outcome lol

    I'm going to say like a 98% turnout with 97% voting yes and the rest not voting no 🤣

    I wonder if Moscow Mick and commie Claire are over there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Since it became clear that Amnesty were suborned by Russia, some of us no longer pay attention to their whatabout squealing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    I'm going to say some kind of attempt will be made to make it look somewhat "democratic".

    I'll go 78-80% voting yes. 85% turnout.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Special boards operations

    Enforcement department of Russia



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