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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I don't mind admitting that this commentator is saying exactly the kind of things I want to hear --




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There is a deal Russia leaves ukraine.

    .

    But you need a win for so you can keep cheering putin,

    Guess what you lose , putin lost and Zelensky is a God amongst men



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Zelensky is certainly impressive a comedian in peace time and a Iron man in war time. I hope soon enough he can go back having a bit of crack. But he's done an amazing job. I don't know huge amounts about Ukraine never on my radar really. But If a country came to life Zelensky would be Ukraine personified.



  • Posts: 634 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But wouldn’t that be even more embarrassing for them to say that? After all for years they’ve been saying that westerners are soft, aren’t men anymore etc while they’re still big strong mens men ha. And at the start of the war when I saw captured Russian soldiers most looked like malnourished dwarves. They really do tie themselves up in knots with the bs they spout.

    A tin pot army who relied on winter throughout the ages to save their holes has really been brought to light over this past 6 months. The Japanese easily defeated them in 1904/05 which humiliated Russia and lead to civil unrest and the Russia revolution that year. Let’s hope history repeats itself on that front and Putin gets his comeuppance.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Works great in propaganda,for sure,and it has impacted many european countries

    Russia have spent millions meddling in European far right and others and also sponsored troll farms to spread hate and misinformation.

    And offcourse the myth of big bad vlad and his super russian army thats invincible.

    Somehow this have all backfired now,many useful idiots in the west are going down with the ship like rats,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I wager some would say I'm right wing. But if you believe anything coming out of Russia you need your head examined. I believe the west has gotten a bit softer but when push comes to shove will do the right thing. We have been given a wake up call and hope we actually come together create larger defence pacts and national security for example. Multifaceted intelligence agencies. An opt in EU army alongside NATO. Or create our own EUTO That could include Canada Australia UK anyone who wants to join. Not to be pulled into a war but to have enough clout not to be messed with. I appreciate everything the USA has done but we need to stand on our own. Keep the NATO standards ofc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,596 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    How on earth did a car manage to collide with the Presidential motorcade? Deliberate perhaps? It would be hard not to see the motorcade coming.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Zelensky seems to be traveling low key. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have an obvious motorcade and was just one of a group of (granted, large, expensive) cars, but without police sirens and flashy lights shouting "He's over here!!!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @greenpilot you might enjoy this one ,

    The ISR flights from Nato and Sweden tracked and mapped between august 25th and September 12





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Could you imagine the other driver lol

    Who I hit?

    'The President'

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Yep, good stuff.

    FORTE11 had moved to a spot on the Moldovan border, where the Ep-3 Orion normally operates. ( Its in for maintenance, hard to believe that it's basic airframe is nearly 40 years old).

    Keep an eye on Kaliningrad. During the early days of the war, a Swedish AF Gulfstream was doing daily SIGNIT operations off the coast of Kaliningrad, but stopped as soon as the Amphibious Task Force arrived on site.

    There's plenty of satellite overwatch too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Page Number 1917.

    How apt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Firering missiles at a dam Russia finding newer lows to kill/ hurt civilians

    Germany should give the tanks or US send in abarms

    And of course longer range missiles

    Hope the training is going well on the f16s

    Russia must be defeated completely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well Russia engaged in as a full a scale of war as it can muster to take Ukraine, so presumably they consider all targets & tactics fair game.

    Ukraine on other hand, fighting back with considerable help but with hands a little tied for political considerations. Limited themselves to a few attacks on military sites inside Russian border. I'm sure there's many Ukrainian citizens baying for a few reprisal attacks on Russian towns and cities by way of retribution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    OK, I get you. So if Liz Truss announces today she will invade Ireland unless we hand over Donegal, Cavan and Leitrim, we should hammer out an 'imperfect deal'. Should we see if she'll accept just Cavan or Donegal? Maybe Leitrim if the population is less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Crimea should be the final place the Ukrainians attack. It could push Russia over the edge to mobilize which just makes things harder everywhere.

    Try and take back everything that was invaded this year first. That shouldn't cause full mobilisation. Then go for the LPR and DPR. This might do it but doubtful.

    Leave Crimea for last and by this stage no matter what Russia try they won't break back into Ukraine. If the Kerch bridge is severed I'd honestly favour ukraine taking it back after a long grind. Russia ships could resupply but those harpoon missiles could say otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Rawr


    "President Putin".....President Putin?

    I know that's technically true, but it's been a while since I've seen that monstrous cancer onto the face of humanity be referred to on here with a title that would make him sound like some kind of statesman.

    "President" is the title a democracy ideally gives to a person who has the consensus of the electorate and will do their best for them. It's a title that has taken a lot of abuse in the past few years alas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks like its not all plain sailing for the Russian navy in the black sea




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    In fairness, getting rid of Donegal mightn't be the worst! Always contrary up there when it comes to referendums and have a big bill in the offing for 'restitution'. We could hand both problems to the Brits.

    But back on topic, depending on the winter in it and current progress towards Kherson, I think we could see a slow strangulation of supplies to and bombardment of Crimea. It might be easier to make progress in that south & south easterly direction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Obviously they would need a pretext to do that. Would they be justified invading if we were sheltering terrorists that attack their people and they requested our help to arrest the terrorists and find the arms dumps and our government refused. Would they not consider us a rogue nation? Would their domestic population demand their government act? Suppose we made it mandatory for protestants in the border counties you mention to only speak Irish, would the population across the border feel insecure and might they make the fate of their brethren an issue with the English government?

    Or maybe it's the 1940s and you declare yourself to be a neutral country and follow that code strictly. Would they be justified in sanctioning you (i.e. cut of your access to coal and market for beef). Would you allow them overflight rights of Donegal and Leitrim to carry our war operations in contravention of that neutrality? If the Germans (substitute NATO countries) were about to invade or providing substantial aid to the terrorists attacking their enclave, would they be justified in invading Ireland? Obviously Ireland of the 1940s was in no position to fight either side, how many lives would you sacrifice?

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Was a similar (edit: no, worse I think) head-melter (or at least head-scratcher) in another of Pa ElGrande's posts, about Putin and Biden's "terms" of office as if comparing apples to apples.

    The longer this goes on the deeper we get pulled into the conflict with Russia and I reckon this can drag on another two years to the end of both Putins and Bidens terms

    🤡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    That's hardly a bulletproof air stair he's using is it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,341 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    You are all over the place.

    It appears that Ukraine has air superiority in more places these days than Russia, which is a big turn of events.

    A lot of your post is off the cuff with no facts to bear.


    The thing is, Ukraine has more time in Kherson than Russia. If the winter sets in, how prepared are the poorly trained conscripts willing to freeze when they are low on rations, winter gear and ammo?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭hometruths_real


    it wouldn't surprise me if it was.... very different arrival to Xi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Russia seems to be losing a lot more jet's lately. Either they're taking more risks to support troops or Ukrainian air defense has really improved.

    I used to look at the Kherson battle and think Ukraine should try take the north and north west first before encircling the city for an attack.

    But the Russians seem heavily dug in all along those lines with big numbers. Maybe it's better they instead focus on a direct breakthrough from the south where there's the least distance to travel. Maybe attack the city first before worrying about the north.

    I'd imagine the issue is the open fields gives the Ukrainians narrow paths to move through and if they move in large numbers but get help up for any length of time they'll get bombed to bits from Russian artillery on the other side of the river.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And the innocent explanation, a bog standard traffic accident......they do happen, especially when a large Nr of vehicles are maneuvering together. I've seen them, and especially when civilian vehicles get into the mix.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Also, if they drive anything like their Russian neighbors, a very common occurrence. Do a YouTube search for Russian driving, and you'll start to wonder why they even bother with traffic lights....or road markings even...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Nah, that's just a covered stair in case of rain. Makes it a little more "fancy" in airports that can't be arsed to build jet-bridges.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,866 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I think retaking Crimea will be quite far down the road if it ever happens. It's taking quite a long time to make inroads on the Russian positions on the right bank of the Dnieper and they have had limited supplies for the past 2 weeks. If and when they do retake Kherson, I just can't see them undertaking a crossing of the Dnipro when they can achieve similar results by attacking overland south of Zaphorizhia. Although, the Russians will have that part of the front well fortified, it would be much easier to break through the lines than to attempt a crossing of the Dnipro further south. There will be long battles to secure Melitopol and Berdyansk, before heading west. Only then might the Ukrainians contemplate a river crossing in order to split the Russian forces and draw some strength from their front lines. And even then, they might never attempt it.



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