Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Putin was f@@ked when the fishermen from Castletownbere ran off his Navy. The game was up then he just did not have enough sense to realise it,,🤣🤣🤣

Sure he did, which just goes to prove that it was just an excuse for him, and his plan to restore imperial Russia with him as the new Tzar.

The only way Ukraine can ever be free from threat from the Orcs, is if they had a handfull of nuclear weapons. Giving them some would be the cheapest option for the west and is the only known working vaccine for the Orc problem. Nothing else can offer a permanent solution.

The Baltic states remain uninvaded by Russia, despite having no nukes of their own. They do, however, have NATO membership, which seems effective at making Russia think twice. I think, on balance, NATO would be more of a likelihood for Ukraine than getting a clutch of nukes.

Apparently yesterday Kiev received written security guarantees from most of its nato neighbors...

It would only be right after 20+ years from discussions to join Nato they be brought into the fold once the orcs have. Been removed from inside their borders

Zelensky on the road!

Thanks for this. Really interesting stuff. Makes me wonder about a lot of things...not just in this conflict.

For example, I always dismissed the idea of a future outright conflict between the USA and China purely because they're both nuclear powers. This makes it seem like they actually could have a full on war where they both lob nuclear bombs at each other's cities without causing tens/hundreds of millions of deaths instantly.

Also: Wow Russia really are goosed. I mean the nuclear threat was their ace in the hole. If that's not really the massive trump card that their supporters would have you believe then they haven't got much left that they can do in this conflict.

HAHA, good one.

The Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland) did not get themselves into that position, then again you can argue there was not much in the way of resources to steal. Much of Ukrainian culture is not dissimilar from that of Russia and they do have a shared heritage, its not the Baltic states being invaded today. One thing you will notice about thugs & muggers here in Ireland, is they pick on people they perceive as weak or vulnerable. If you are drunkenly staggering down the street, you are more vulnerable to being robbed, same if you are an old person, same if you are a woman on her own late at night, they always prey on people weaker than themselves who can't hit back.

This is from around 2018 it is average gross monthly salaries. Ukraine is near the bottom, why is this so? It is a resource rich country with a geographically favourable position. The Russians perceived the country as weak and invaded for the resources. In a parallel universe what could the Ukranians have done differently since independence in 1991 and prevented the Russian invasion? Obviously there is not a straightforward answer to that since it involves a combination of politics, diplomacy and economics. I'll bet if they were doing better economically than Russia, that there would be little scope for exploitation by the Kremlin of malcontent with the various corrupt Kiev governments.

Because it was part of the Soviet Union. Totally different circumstances

The things are so dangerous and destructive that most nuclear powers privately know that they can never be fired in anger. They are not a realistic or credible option for any type of military conflict. The only reason two of them were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki is that the US was the only country in the world to possess them - if Japan had their own atomic bombs and the capacity to hit US cities in response, we can be pretty certain Hiroshima would never have happened.

I know you're getting a lot of smart remarks in response to this post but that's because people have been staying stuff like this since the beginning of this conflict and piece by piece all of these arguments have been debunked or proven to be wishful Russian thinking.

• "...Russia is a massive, absolutely country with a hugely powerful economy..." - The first half of this is correct. The second half is not.
• "Europeans will prostrate themselves to Putin" - No. No they won't. In fact they are doing the opposite by introducing measures for a price cap for Russian Oil
• "Biden will do a deal" - Why in god's name would Biden do a deal? Opposing Putin is great politics for him and unlike Europe the USA had miniscule Russian hydrocarbon imports
• "Zelensky will be hung out to dry" - No
• "This is the way the world works and it's only a matter of time" - Since the beginning of this conflict the cynics spouting such cliches have been proven wrong again and again. The EU united. NATO actually increasing its land border with Russia. Germany altering 75 years of defence policy. European countries throwing open their borders to Ukrainian refugees.
• "Putin will mobilise and a million more troops will pour across the border" - Maybe. Maybe not. Even if he did what kind of training would they have had? What sort of motivation would they have? What equipment would they be given? This isn't WW2 where they can just throw bodies at the Wehrmacht.

I'm not going to bother with the rest except to point out that you're using "We" in reference to the Russians. It sounds like you've watched too much of your countries propaganda.

Russia are losing and will lose and it's going to come as a massive shock to a lot of Russians and their supporters going by the amount of them that are still coming out with this tired nonsense. Perhaps this is the kind of shock therapy that Russia needs. Perhaps it will humble their people enough for them to take stock and demand a different path. I live in hope.

Edit: Damn you got me. Good stuff.