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British Man Videoing Garda Stations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Under what law ? Private places can tell you to take them off. I can record you with a mobile without it being obvious. Why is everyone filming a pervert or weirdo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Private places can tell you to take your glasses off?

    Just because you 'discreetly' record people using a hidden mobile phone, doesn't make it ok.

    Anyone who does what you just described is being a pervert or a wierdo.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Only way your not going to be filmed is build a bunker and stay in it i'm afraid. I often wonder about the people behind the CCTV are they weirdos and perverts ? I mean I'm sure you could never get away having cameras in changing rooms and toilets on private property. 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I know we're filmed all the time, but there has to be a lawful reason for capturing those recordings. Under GDPR, there needs to be a Clearly defined purpose, and you need to be able to demonstrate that the recording is necessary. You also need to be able to justify retaining those recordings once that purpose has been fulfilled.

    https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/dpc-guidance/guidance-on-the-use-of-cctv

    Passive filming by a CCTV that's installed for a specific purpose, and is only shared or accessed in relation to that specific purpose, is a different category to someone deliberately standing somewhere with a camera recording you openly for no obvious purpose.

    Under GDPR you can process personally identifiable information (which includes people's images on CCTV) only if there is a justifiable reason to do so, and that footage can only be used afterwards for that specified purpose.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    GDPR does not cover Individuals have people even read it ? The Data Protection commissioner can say what they like about the glasses. But can enforce nothing. Now if it turns out they passively record and uploaded via the supplier that's entirely different.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Again, just because someone can do something, doesn't mean that they should.

    A private individual recording people to harass them to provoke a reaction so they can post that online, may not be illegal, but it's a c*nty thing to do. And you can't justify that because of CCTV, because CCTV is regulated under GDPR

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    And the DPC can enforce GDPR, they can apply massive fines, and also destroy the reputation of any company who fails to comply with the regulations

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭dontmindme


    You'd imagine if any law was being broken our gardai in the video should have known about it, no? Or did you even watch the video in the OP?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I don't need to justify anything no law is being broken. Your entitled to not like it but that about it. I don't support the clown, But said clown is free to do what they are doing legally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I never said a law was broken. I said these people are being C*nts

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Thy maybe but some do a service and show up public workers not having a clue. Getting thick with people like I have heard in some of the videos is not a legal recourse. You ignore the spanner and wait till they go away. If you are challenging them better probably look up what law your going to be using.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You don't support him, so you agree it's wrong. Would you support making it illegal?

    Recording people in order to harass them?

    A think those facebook recording glasses should be illegal too. what about you? (unless they make it super obvious that they are recording, a very bright flashing light for example)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I'm sure some would love some people not being filmed. I see nothing wrong with it. Called them clowns. Cant see how you ban the glasses there going to feed into augmented reality why they need a camera so they can see the shop for example and pull up information. Street privacy is gone some need to accept that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ok, I'll come to your workplace on Monday and record everything you do for the day. If I am as obnoxious as I can possibly be within the letter of the law, and you react in any emotional way, then I can release that tiny part of the recording without any context, and that's perfectly ok.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Unfortunately you won't get in. Security frown on randos coming in. If I was a public place nothing I can do maybe jump in a taxi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You would make a bad business analyst.

    If recording is required for real time augmented reality, then treat that separately to any recording that is written to storage and accessible later on.

    For example, your phone listens for the words 'Ok Google' so it can activate a service with voice commands. It shouldn't listen to everything you say all the time and record it all forever for blackmail purposes

    Any recording that is retained for more than a few seconds, should activate the bright flashing lights to notify the other person that they are being spied on.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Fine, I'll get one of your colleagues to film you secretly using his new facebook spy glasses. They'll follow you around for most of the day. I'm sure you'd have no problem with that.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    The glasses are easy to spot would be odd someone being let in knowing about them now. Security would tell you to take them off. They could try a phone but I wager they have better things to be doing than filming me at work. Boss would probably have a word too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Until legislation comes in on the street nothing can be done. There is no onus on the companies making these to have lights or anything on them. They may have a feature you can turn on if you want. But no laws govern that. Private property will figure out fairly fast about the brands and allow them or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If the glasses were easy to spot, then Meta wouldn't have been forced to run the ads telling people how to recognise them

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I know the laws are insufficient. The question is whether they Should be sufficient.

    Do you believe perverts and wierdo's should be allowed to secretly film people in private situations as long as it's not expressly forbidden by law?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    there is a diference between covertly filming someone with a hidden camera and someone standing on a footpath with a very obvious camera pointing at what ever is being filmed.

    i agree that those glasses are a step to far and need regulating



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Forced how exactly You mean they put a cost benefit analysis on a light. The commissioner is definitely on shaky ground if they are implying some kind of breach in the law. Only thing I can think if is you don't actually own the Glasses going after them that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    The most worrying element of people who test Gards like this is that actions will inevitably cause a reaction in the law. At some stage legislation will be introduced to counteract this form of antagonism. This will also give Gards further opportunities to implicate people in other offences. So whilst this egomaniac thinks he is doing us all a favour, he is actually contributing to more draconian laws being introduced to disable our rights in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Its-not-lupus


    Exactly, wasn't there a recent B&E into a Detectives house recently where they trashed the house and sh1t on the dining table etc. Prison officers get followed home too. OC gangs are getting smart with their Kinetic operations against L&E organisations and counter Intel.

    I don't want to live in a Narco or failed state without law and order. Think Mexico, Somalia and events in Holland a few years ago during the trial of The Kinahans associates. It's a slippery slope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    What's that got to do with anything activities you listed are illegal. What next banning picture taking in public. You think the near do wells will follow any law brought in ? If so I have a large metal structure for sale. There will be no Draconian laws brought in either. I get caught in selfies and people filming all the time. Should I make a scene slap the phone out of their hand ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    So you agree they should not be allowed. You're just privileged to have a private security firm to enforce that rule.

    Btw, the vast majority of people wouldn't be able to recognise these Facebook spy glasses even after those ads that they were made to run.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It's not the cost of the light. That is insignificant. It's the fact that they know most of the people who would want to buy those spy glasses are perverts and wierdos who want to be able to film others in secret.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There’s a law against that already it’s called stalking.

    There’s also harassment if someone actually sticks a camera in your face.

    This clown isn’t doing either and if you were honest you wouldn’t create these ridiculous straw men, like allowing perverts to record things in private.



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