British Man Videoing Garda Stations

Jonathan1990

In the UK there is this craze on YouTube with auditors where they'll visit police stations and audit them by filming for public interest. The man in the video I've posted has decided to go to the next level by visiting Ireland just to film Garda stations here. Seems like he's breaking the law doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mHbA17zO8&ab

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261937/british-man-videoing-gada-stations

What law

freshpopcorn

I always find the individuals who go around filming Garda stations, truck depots, prisons, you name it are just ones out looking for confrontation.

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261937/british-man-videoing-gada-stations

Maybe he'll be able to solve the mystery of the missing R in the thread title and OP.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572137#Comment_119572137

Why do they need to be confronted at all if they aren't doing anything illegal though.

Wanna get you and me on the same page let's talk about the Cart Narc instead. Says he wears a bulletproof vest now. That is a man out looking for confrontation.

KilOit

This sort of thing is common in America, obviously, it's catching on over here now. seem like some weird group.

They basically just stand there and film.

https://youtu.be/mtUTLO-jTqo?t=1

Miadhc

Sad individuals with no lives crying out for some attention.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261937/british-man-videoing-gada-stations

I find this disturbing. I can't watch over 10 mins.

Why did he do this, is the question.

edit:typo

Strumms

His oxygen is attention and confrontation… so unless he’s committing a crime leave him at it. Don’t even offer a simile or hello, let him get riled and frustrated and irritated, he’ll either fûck off home or do something that might be cause for arrest.

Attention seekers… best way to deal is to starve them of what they seek.

85603

yeah watched one the other day where the dingbat made a big fuss about flying his drone over a factory of some sort. looked to be chemical processing or some sort of primary substance location.

i thought maybe the factory might be embroiled in some sort of controversy or politics of some kind, but no, there was no real background story from what i could tell by the end.

no real reason. just another annoying crank doing his annoying crank thing.

a giant meteorite is long overdue for this world.

Kermit.de.frog

With the whole gangland situation and the threat of counter intelligence against Guards one would think it would be obvious why you shouldn't film around there.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261937/british-man-videoing-gada-stations

Guy is a gobshite

says he done his research and then mumbling and hasn’t a clue

only one way to deal with him

https://youtu.be/sKiLfH3DVGc

FoxForce5

Watched his irishtown video, the gardai came across very poorly and borderline racist. His Lucan one is hilarious 😆

EOQRTL

What an absolute numpty. I long for the days when the Gardai could drag idiots like this around the back of the station and give him a good kicking. The lack of respect for the police seems to be spreading from America unfortunately.

Danzy

He comes across as an asshole.

Jim_Hodge

There was a thread on this nutter before. Attention seeking twat.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572714#Comment_119572714

Problem is with each thread, people click on it and he think he gets like

Dislike every time you click on it, he is a plonker

JustJoe7240

Gardai come off a lot worse than the guy filming in the Irishtown video. Big ogreish looking fella had a nightmare

elperello

How is wandering around filming on a phone an audit ?

Stephen_Maturin

Watched the Irishtown video there - while yer man filming is obviously an attention seeker the gardaí in the video did themselves no favours.

It’s not illegal to film things in public - there’s no presumption of privacy in a public space.

The gardaí appeared to lack knowledge of the law surrounding this area and instead just resorted to bully/intimidation tactics to try and cow him. That or they knew he wasn’t actually breaking any laws but tried to pretend that he was in order to raise a threat of prosecution.

Either way, they didn’t look great. Should’ve just ignored yer man.

walshb

Out and out troublemakers. Surely there is some nuisance/intimidatory law there to invoke?

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572798#Comment_119572798

They think they are checking the sanctity of the first amendment rights.

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572851#Comment_119572851

While I do think yer man is a troublemaker and pain in the arse I’d be very wary of any of that - the Gardaí are public servants of the law, unless they are actively in the middle of an undercover investigation they should have no problem with being filmed in the conductance of their duties.

They would’ve been best served to just ignore him after asking their first few questions. Nobody’s going to watch a twenty minute video of a building. It’s them getting frustrated and uppity with them that brings in the views.

Ham_Sandwich

the idea that people can go into garda stations and start asking questions and the like with a camera is ridiculous lock him up and let him see how much he likes that part of the station

Graces7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572888#Comment_119572888

Perfect reply. Thank you , I saw the UK version and the words from "Alice" come tomind, " He only does it to annoy because he knows it teases." ,, he is DARING them and goading them to arrest him.. Infantile, Literally

gmisk

I am not wasting 20 minutes of my life on this nonsense.

The people doing this need to get a life, sad twats.

davetherave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572831#Comment_119572831

Would there be an equivalent of Sec.268 of the Defence Act for Garda Stations?

(1) If any person, without lawful authority, makes or attempts to make any sketch, drawing, photograph, picture, painting, model or note of any fort, battery, field work, fortification or any military work of defence, aerodrome, barracks, post, magazine, munition factory, stores depot or any other Government property occupied or partly occupied by the Defence Forces or any portion thereof, such person shall be guilty of an offence under this subsection and shall be liable on summary conviction thereof to a fine not exceeding one hundred pounds or, at the discretion of the court, imprisonment for any term not exceeding twelve months,

(4) Any member of the Defence Forces or of the Garda Síochána may without warrant arrest any person who he has reasonable grounds to believe has committed an offence under this section and bring him before a Justice of the District Court to be dealt with according to law.

blanch152

Aren't there laws against harrassment? Following people around with a camera is harrassment? Filming them at their place of work while they carry out their duties is harrassment?

Donald Trump

Attention seeking arsehole. Someone should do the same on him and follow him once he leaves his house.

I had a look for 2 minutes. In it he says "I went up to the counter to tell you". So the arsehole is obviously going in and announcing himself and then turning on the camera later to make it look like he has been approached

xxxxxxl

Looks perfectly legal to me Not watched any videos dont have time for fools. I'm sure there will be the same cries about Garda wanting body cams. GDPR is no issue either as a private individual only one person needs to agree and that's the person holding the camera. For example in Dublin city there is nowhere you can go without being filmed. IIRC they can still put cameras in toilets and changing rooms. Just as no one monitors them. There used to facilitate Garda if a crime has been committed in those areas.

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573235#Comment_119573235

As far as I’m aware there’s no equivalent, think it only extends to military facilities

JimmyAlfonso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572702#Comment_119572702

I think you're mixed up there. Initially when I read through this I thought he would be attention seeking and provoking but I thought he was measured and reasonable. The guards came across awfully. Intimidating and making up laws on the spot. Clearly shows the abuse of power that they use on a daily basis as it kicks in without thinking.

It's no harm to have this 'audit' as a re-education is long overdue for the Gardai when dealing with the public. A lot of them behave like prehistoric old school bullies and have poor communication and de-escalation skills which only fan the flames in a lot of situations. I understand in certain situations a show of force is needed but this wasn't in the slightest confrontational until they tried to make it so...possibly to engineer an arrest.

purplefields

Thanks for posting that. I totally detest the cycling ones, and will not give them my clicks. This, I have no problem watching.

As an aside, do some people on this thread really not realise that this is a money making venture? Responses = €€€s

The Irishtown guards seem really dense.

AndyBoBandy

Saw some of the Lucan one..

the guy is looking at the ""Ring Bell for Attention"" button and you can almost feel him burning up inside because he wants to press it for attention......

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573382#Comment_119573382

It's a pity he isn't available to do one these "audits" outside Tallaght Garda Station this morning.

Pretty certain they'd live to see him.

_Kaiser_

The Gardai don't do themselves any favours in that video.

If it's an offence all they had to do was state what it was and under what section. If he's obliged to provide them info then again, under section whatever.

Much simpler and would have ended this interaction there and then. Instead they go for this confrontational/intimidating approach but clearly have no legal basis for it by their evasive responses when specifically asked.

While I question the value of filming Garda stations in itself, this highlights the gaps in their interactions with the public and their overreliance on vague references and intimidation to bully their way though an interaction.

What an absolute waste of sperm that fella is. One thing for sure, judging by the comments on his video he has loads of support.

lawrencesummers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119572350#Comment_119572350

Social media summed up in one sentence.

evolvingtipperary101

What's the point of what he is doing? Genuinely trying to understand what he's doing.

dmc17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573801#Comment_119573801

He makes money from it

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573823#Comment_119573823

Maybe he can buy himself some neurofen and cough drops - he has an awful blocked nose.

nelly17

If he was really a responsible concerned citizen he'd blur out those Number Plates of the Garda personal veichles.

d12crew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574025#Comment_119574025

Why sure he doesn't have access to pulse system,ndls or the tax office, no-one has a right to privacy in public, anything the eye can see is legal to record, hopefully more of this kinda thing to educate and keep them on their toes.

This all started in America I believe, centered around the first amendment right to film police officers in their line of duty.

I can understand why subsequent videos appeared online as the Americans take their first amendment rights very seriously. They call it a first amendment “audit”- ie to see if the officers respond appropriately and don’t harrass the video guy or try to identify him or even arrest him- they’res some pretty pissed off officers on YouTube 😂

Doing it on this side of the water though is just stupid - I think the guards know about this kind of behaviour and know it’s best to avoid confrontation or even discussion of any kind - saying that wasn’t there a case a number of years ago where guards tried to arrest someone filming or confiscate a phone on a public street where another arrest was in progress? I don’t like that either- we’re either permitted to film in public or we’re not- if we are then leave us alone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573801#Comment_119573801

See my post above for explanation- also below link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_audits

tjhook

Yeah, there probably isn't a law against filming a garda station. I wouldn't mind if such a law existed though. If I wanted to report an attack on me by somebody I knew - or domestic abuse, I might be reluctant if I thought there could be a video of me entering the station going up on Youtube.

The guy was probably within his rights, but that doesn't mean he's not a plonker.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574446#Comment_119574446

For any of that to happen they would have to either know you follow you stalk you. Following someone to the station filming them I wager would fall under stalking. Sitting outside the courts Garda station film to your heart's content nothing illegal about it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574446#Comment_119574446

Yeah, just coz you “can” doesn’t mean you “should”

And to think, there’s many guards in Tallaght Garda station today where one of those videos were filmed, traumatised by what they had to deal with this weekend with the deaths if those poor children- it’s not fair to stick a camera in the face of a guard who’s just minding their own business and going about their lawful work- you’re just looking for trouble- what if this guy were subsequently attacked on the street by some thug - he’d be happy to give his name to Gardai at that point wouldn’t he?

he’s a total ass-hole

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574446#Comment_119574446

That's an interesting point.

In his videos the Garda stations were quiet and no members of the public were present.

They are not always like that and people with all sorts of problems or issues end up in them for one reason or another.

Sometimes people in custody are brought through the front door, often in handcuffs.

These people may never be charged or if charged be found not guilty but might feature on Youtube.

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574446#Comment_119574446

How would they know what your business in the police station was? You could be going in for a Garda vetting form or passport witnessing or anything equally as mundane.

To reiterate, I’m not a fan of this guy or the way he goes about things. However he hasn’t done anything illegal in fairness, and I don’t see any harm in seeing how the Gardaí respond to this - from what we’ve seen their response has been poor, with either ignorance of the law or making up the law to suit them on display. They have a very important job and wield considerable power over the average citizen. They should be held to a high standard and rightly so.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574434#Comment_119574434

Thank you.