Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Gatling · 10-09-2022 05:09PM

@ electric _sheep

Someone very close to me is ethnically part Russian. .

Get the boat with that nonsense

10-09-2022 05:15PM

Alot of crazy videos coming through

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/new/

Strazdas · 10-09-2022 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600263#Comment_119600263

That's pretty much it, yes. They appear to be the equivalent of the Italian Army in WW2 - all talk and shape throwing by the fraud great leader, but utterly useless on the battlefield.

It's not that they've met their match, more that they have been outclassed by a far superior and much better disciplined army.

It raises all sorts of questions about the future of Russia.

Gatling · 10-09-2022 05:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600159#Comment_119600159

Anything but hurt russians.

But we knew that from the start

Brussels Sprout · 10-09-2022 05:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600401#Comment_119600401

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss their achievements in Kherson. Now, in comparison to what has happened in Kharkiv they look piffling but they're draining an army that cannot easily be resupplied. At some point, when those Russians run out of fuel and ammunition, they are also likely to collapse.

paul71 · 10-09-2022 05:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600439#Comment_119600439

Got to make you wonder about that joint exercise going on with China at the moment. Are the Chinese looking at them and thinking "What the hell are we going to learn from this gang of clowns?"

10-09-2022 05:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600453#Comment_119600453

There’s no reason to think the Chinese are any better unless you are a protesting student. To be fair, they are world class at defeating those.

threeball · 10-09-2022 05:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599591#Comment_119599591

I said this would happen about 6 weeks ago. The Russians would shell and shell then one day it just stops as theres nothing more to fire, then the entire army would collapse overnight. The Ukrainians obviously noticed the drop off in the volume of fire they were receiving and decided to go for it.

This could all develop very quickly. The rest of the Russian army could shít the bed and high tail it over the border after seeing what's happening here. It's also quite conceivable that Putin gets removed or assassinated as the scale becomes apparent or in reaction to him ordering a nuclear strike.

Strazdas · 10-09-2022 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600453#Comment_119600453

The whole dynamic of geopolitics is certainly getting thrown up in the air. Russia exposed as a playground bully with only a third rate army to fight their corner (having convinced everyone it was a superpower and global influencer).

paul71 · 10-09-2022 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600464#Comment_119600464

Thats true, I will rephrase! Imagine what happens if the Russians outperform The Chinese army in these exercises! Will the Chinese think "How bad are we to be outperformed by this bunch of clowns?"

TheValeyard · 10-09-2022 05:32PM

Right,

I've been away for an hour or so

Many more villages liberated?

paul71 · 10-09-2022 05:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600486#Comment_119600486

They are talking about another city, not villages.

Lysychansk

TheValeyard · 10-09-2022 05:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600492#Comment_119600492

This has been a great few days on this thread. Nothing but good news.

Lol our Russian fanboys here. I can almost hear the salty tears

cnocbui · 10-09-2022 05:37PM

Wibbs on blitzkrieg: Now careful lads, lets not be getting too hasty, we should submit our plans to An Board Pleanala first and wait to see what they say first.

10-09-2022 05:38PM

Awaiting the following announcement any day now… Putin under medical supervision and his family heads to be by his side as doctors are 'concerned for his health'

EOQRTL · 10-09-2022 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600453#Comment_119600453

China possibly gathering their own intel on the Russians before making their own move on them?

electric_sleep · 10-09-2022 05:40PM

No Gatling, I won’t ‘get the boat’ . I don’t want to give more detail in a public forum but yes, that person is of Russian heritage and no, they are not an animal because of that.

Nobody can be judged based on their national origin, heritage or ethnicity. That’s a basic tenant of human rights and anyone who disagrees with this is nothing more than a bigot. There is no ‘evil’ gene that makes anyone lesser than anyone else.

Condemn those who commit or assist in war crimes.

cheese sandwich · 10-09-2022 05:40PM

Thoughts and prayers for Clare Daly and Mick Wallace today

paul71 · 10-09-2022 05:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600506#Comment_119600506

As with Izyum yesterday I will take talk about Lysychansk with a pinch of salt for another 24 hours, but so far nothing about this advance has been shown to be exagerated.

Brussels Sprout · 10-09-2022 05:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600346#Comment_119600346

If you look at the comments under pro-Russian Youtube accounts you'll see remarks like "Just wait until Russia actually takes this seriously and mobilises in full". They basically see it as a trump card that Putin has up his sleeve that he can play that guarantees victory. When you dig a little bit deeper though it quickly becomes apparent that there are a lot of holes in this logic:

The Russians have already used conscription in this war: in Luhansk and Donetsk every able bodied man was press-ganged into the war. Their units were some of the worst performing in the war due to their lack of training and motivation.
While Russians in the West of the country appear to be more than happy for young men from the poorer ethnic Republics (like Chechnya, Dagestan, Tuva & Baryatia) to fight and die in Ukraine they are unlikely to be as enthusiastic to go and join the conflict themselves. This was one of the main reasons why Putin hasn't declared this as a war from the beginning.
While Russia has potentially got huge number of men that they could call up, when you drill into the numbers they aren't as impressive. Most men with combat experience are already in Ukraine. Apart from the very brief Georgian war, in 2008, the last time Russia hasn't been involved in a major land war since the Chechan wars. Most of the veterans from that would be nearer to 50 than 30.
The more of the security forces that are sent to Ukraine the less are available to suppress dissent in Russia.

jackboy · 10-09-2022 05:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600513#Comment_119600513

Thats mad. Mad but interesting.It would take some collapse though before China would chance taking a chunk of Russia.

xxxxxxl · 10-09-2022 05:42PM

How is the security council meeting going an invader saying rules don't apply to us but to others somehow. First rule of war say your going to attack somewhere then don't. Much easier if the enemy is waiting on the green to go and rob his house and take the valuables. Then come back and beat them with the valuables.

Strazdas · 10-09-2022 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600510#Comment_119600510

We're certainly heading into uncharted waters. A sudden collapse of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine was not anticipated by anyone, perhaps not even by the Ukrainians themselves. It's going to be very difficult for the regime to control the narrative when things are clearly going badly wrong.

EOQRTL · 10-09-2022 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600524#Comment_119600524

If Russia starts collapsing from within you can be sure the Chinese are licking their lips at the prospect as will the US and Europe. I guarantee they will have plans at the ready. a lot of natural resources to be exploited.

rogber · 10-09-2022 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599594#Comment_119599594

I know. I've said it before, Ukraine isn't doing this to dominate chit chat in every pub and every dinner table. Support is strong and actually the better Ukraine does militarily the more Russia will probably continue to weaponise energy. We just have to find ways to live with it. The other hope is that if the Russian military continues to suffer such setbacks it has to surely weaken Putin's standing in Russia and just maybe some force will emerge that wants to take Russia in a better direction

xxxxxxl · 10-09-2022 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600539#Comment_119600539

I have always said this if China smells blood in the water it's an easy win. They have probably been given a tour of all the silos and alike.

10-09-2022 05:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600524#Comment_119600524

I can imagine if dissent grows around the various parts of Russia, the Chinese would enter Russia to protect the ethnic Chinese as an aid the Russian government… they’d make that clear when several miles inside Russia. Russian requests to leave would not be understood due to poor communications.

Russia is very weak now, is a HUGE country very sparsely populated. China has a huge population and could develop that part of Russia.

I don’t think Moscow would risk a nuclear war with China for the arse end of Russia. They’d be humiliated, but that’s happening with Ukraine now anyway. Putin the Great, more like Putin the Pathetic.

10-09-2022 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600526#Comment_119600526

That was a joke in case any doubt. 😀

Jinglejangle69 · 10-09-2022 05:51PM

Remember all those mysterious fires?

We all knew they were HIMARS.

Depleting Russian ammo depots before the counter attack.

EOQRTL · 10-09-2022 05:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119600546#Comment_119600546

Could be very interesting alright. Russia could very easily become a battle ground for China v The West.

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