F1 2022-Round 16 - Monza : Italian GP

Joeface · 08-09-2022 10:10am #1

Ah yes the return to the temple of speed , the last place where a team out side the big Three had a deserved win on pace.

Sessions

I have seen different weather reports so Included the most common forecast.

LIGHTNING · 08-09-2022 12:06pm

Changed the title to match the existing format

flazio · 08-09-2022 1:10pm

Lot of people have already metaphorically handed the trophy over to Verstappen but for the last couple of years the same was said about Mercedes-Benz and they only got their engines through, not the car.

Joeface · 08-09-2022 1:16pm

Sorry , I was messing with the title ....it was just too long when I read it so had to use it .

Hamilton To Take engine penalty here and start at the back .

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/1567838946884812800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567838946884812800%7Ctwgr%5E0672e62379f5e0aebe298765ede21a8947b9370b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fx8y5lm%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

LIGHTNING · 08-09-2022 1:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119589379#Comment_119589379

All he is got now is break more wins in a season record. The title is his, Ferrari even if you gifted them a win would still mess it up.

Joeface · 08-09-2022 2:18pm

Aston Monza Wing

flazio · 08-09-2022 5:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119589413#Comment_119589413

With the news coming from the UK you can imagine Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton MBE HonFREng will want to pull another Brazil pull through on his noble German steed in honour of her majesty.

On a more serious note could Queen Elizabeth's passing (if it happens) disrupt the weekend? Although only 3 teams race under a British licence, many teams are UK based.

LIGHTNING · 08-09-2022 6:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119591049#Comment_119591049

I dont see how it would, even if it was a day of mourning the team isn't going to shut down.

Vicxas · 08-09-2022 6:10pm

Hoping for a better race than last week.

AMKC · 08-09-2022 6:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119591322#Comment_119591322

A last weekends race was not that bad. It was better than the Belgium race which was boring.

Burkie1203 · 08-09-2022 7:44pm

Cricket test match won't play tmrw

Golf at Wentworth too

SM seems to hint at widespread sports events being postponed or cancelled for the next 3/5 days

flazio · 08-09-2022 7:56pm

F1 will go ahead and will pay tribute.

https://twitter.com/wearetherace/status/1567940594219249664?t=iDONRrOt_qdwktFm1pH7dg&s=19

PsychoPete · 08-09-2022 8:31pm

Cancelling the grand prix just because the Queen died would be awful decision, thankfully the FIA have some sense

flazio · 08-09-2022 8:45pm

Nobody really expected the Grand Prix to be called off. Only the Pandemic has ever achieved that as far as I can recall.

AMKC · 08-09-2022 11:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119592138#Comment_119592138

Especially as its not even in the UK this weekend.

Itssoeasy · 08-09-2022 11:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119593374#Comment_119593374

Exactly. I’d be very surprised if a sporting event not in the UK gets cancelled, but a moment of silence is the least they were going to do.

quokula · 09-09-2022 12:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119593401#Comment_119593401

Yeah it would make zero sense to cancel an international sporting event in Italy because the head of state of another country died.

The Monza event in 2001 went ahead just a couple of days after the September 11th attacks, Ferrari ran a special livery out of respect.

I expect some of the British teams may do something similar if less extreme for this race.

klose · 09-09-2022 12:37am

Seems to be a few people by all accounts moving to the back of the grid so hopefully an opportunity for an unexpected podium/good points haul. Hopefully ferrari come swinging but its hard to imagine that being the case.

Frank Bullitt · 09-09-2022 4:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119593430#Comment_119593430

Just a reminder of how absolutely beautiful cars were back then.

quokula · 09-09-2022 10:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119593627#Comment_119593627

Stunning alright. Amazing how basic the aero looks by today's standards, when they were the absolute bleeding edge (and pretty damn quick around a lap on narrow grooved tyres too)

Joeface · 09-09-2022 12:42pm

Lot of Penalties again this weekend .

Yuki Tsunoda , 10 places after 5 reprimands.

Bottas , PU change

Hamiliton , PU change

Perez PU Changes

Sainz PU Changes

Mick Schumacher Gear Box Change

Verstappen ICE change (5 places I think)

Busi_Girl08 · 09-09-2022 1:28pm

Such a strange atmosphere on Sky Sports F1. Everyone's talking as normal just sounding a little more down-cast, and no music/sound effects on the idents.

Guessing the podium will be a subdued one on Sunday.

Meanwhile Gasly seems to be having issues with his brakes and a DRS or rear wing issue for Checo?

Joeface · 09-09-2022 2:14pm

FP1 Results

Busi_Girl08 · 09-09-2022 3:54pm

Grid penalties for Sunday:

Max Verstappen - 5 places

Sergio Perez - 10 places

Valtteri Bottas - 15 places

Carlos Sain - 25 places (so back of the grid basically??) or a typo

Lewis Hamilton - Back of the Grid

Yuki Tsunoda - Back of thr Grid

quokula · 09-09-2022 3:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119595997#Comment_119595997

There's a lot of technicalities to the rules depending on exactly which parts were changed and when so a 25 place penalty starts ahead of everyone with a back of the grid penalty. However there was the same situation with Leclerc on the Friday of the Belgian GP and they ended up with a back of the grid penalty once it all shook out.

Jordan 199 · 09-09-2022 7:50pm

I'm feeling a bit nostalgic this weekend, so to reflect that, I will be wearing a Quick Nick Heidfeld t-shirt for qualifying and a Jordan t-shirt for the race.

thefa · 09-09-2022 8:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119591322#Comment_119591322

Tough crowd. Wouldn’t get my hopes up for the circuit but the grid penalties should provide more overtaking.

Hijpo · 09-09-2022 8:32pm

Looking forward to getting idea of how much of a gap in raw pace each car has.

When do RB bring that new chassis into play? Apparently supposed to save 7-10Kg or something.

Joeface · 09-09-2022 8:46pm

Three more places in penalties for Yuki , failing to slow for yellow flags . + License points

Captain_Crash · 10-09-2022 7:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119596010#Comment_119596010

I thought it was a simple add up the pens (5 place for this, 10 place for that and so on) and after qualy do the maths and work out who starts where??

dulpit · 10-09-2022 9:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119598548#Comment_119598548

In theory yes. But some penalties are specifically back of the grid, so they go behind the people with x place penalties, even if someone ebds up with a 25 place penalty. I think.

El_Duderino 09 · 10-09-2022 9:38am

Assuming Leclerc starts on pole, there's a great opportunity for the likes of Russell, the Alpines and Norris, to start from second.

Faugheen · 10-09-2022 10:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119598843#Comment_119598843

I was just about it say. Is the grid basically going to be LeClerc, Russell then whoever you're having yourself followed by Max in 6th?

Could be a bit of fun watching Hamilton, Perez and Sainz squabbling for 15th tomorrow.

PsychoPete · 10-09-2022 11:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599074#Comment_119599074

It's probably going to be Leclerc,Russell,Alonso,Ocon, Norris, Verstappen then maybe Ricciardo, Haas or Aston Martin

Andrew76 · 10-09-2022 11:54am

De Vries replacing Albon for the rest of the weekend, looking forward to seeing how he gets on.

dulpit · 10-09-2022 12:22pm

Albon is a big loss for Williams. That car has speed, could maybe have been in line for a point or 2. Maybe de vries will get good work out though.

Busi_Girl08 · 10-09-2022 12:27pm

I love the Audio Lap idea on Sky. Just gives us a chance to listen to the cars and get a break from the commentators

Andrew76 · 10-09-2022 12:57pm

Max looking good this weekend so far, 3 tenths up on LeClerc with no tow. He’ll start the race in 6th at best yes? Karun keeps saying 4th unless I’m not listening properly.

flazio · 10-09-2022 12:57pm

If De Vries owns Latifi in qualifying, that has to be Game over for the Canadian surely.

NinjaTruncs · 10-09-2022 1:03pm

Won't Max's starting position depend on how they apply the penalties. Let's assume Max gets P1, Sainz P2 and Hamilton P3. Max gets demoted to P6, but will he go back up two places when Sainz and Hamilton get demoted? Or do the next two behind Max go above Max? Which would see strange.

Andrew76 · 10-09-2022 1:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599527#Comment_119599527

You might be right. Maybe Sainz and Hamilton penalties will be applied last because they are back of the grid type penalties. Happy out if Max starts 4th.

De Vries put in a decent lap there all things considered. Alonso could end up second on the grid for tomorrow, reminding Alpine what they’ve lost. 😂

NinjaTruncs · 10-09-2022 1:22pm

The risk is that both Sainz and Hamilton are used to draft Leclerc and Russell, and don't qualify above 6th, in which case Max will be 6th but that shouldn't make much difference as he seems unstoppable this season.

Jordan 199 · 10-09-2022 1:59pm

Lance Stroll will win today as a result of all the other drivers retiring due to a pile-up in the first corner.

dulpit · 10-09-2022 2:03pm

How was Danny Ric in fp3? I assume way off the times still? Be mad if he did another worldie, especially with so many penalties in place...

dulpit · 10-09-2022 2:09pm

9 drivers now with a grid penalty of some sort. Makes the system a bit of a farce really...

https://wtf1.com/post/heres-why-verstappen-and-seven-other-drivers-have-grid-penalties-in-monza/

klose · 10-09-2022 2:11pm

De vries drove for aston in fp1 and now Williams for the weekend, can't imagine too many (if any, at all) have ever drove two different cars on the same GP weekend?

Be interesting to see how he fairs considering he's a rumoured choice for Latifis seat next year, really needs to take this opportunity. Big, warranted pressure on Latifi

Andrew76 · 10-09-2022 2:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599773#Comment_119599773

He was down in 15th place, 9 positions and almost 6 tenths behind Norris. Not a chance he’s winning the race tomorrow. In hindsight they should have let Lando fight him for the win last year imo.

Burkie1203 · 10-09-2022 2:23pm

Are sky just re-hashing old clips instead of a proper built up?

Itssoeasy · 10-09-2022 2:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599850#Comment_119599850

It was meant to come on air at 2pm and that’s been cut to half and hour.

Jordan 199 · 10-09-2022 2:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119599850#Comment_119599850

I haven't noticed as I'm watching Murder She Wrote.

Hijpo · 10-09-2022 2:40pm

I wonder if DeVries will be interviewed later on about the difference in drivability of the two cars .

F1 2022-Round 16 - Monza : Italian GP

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