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Dumping women before they hit 25?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    I would think I am perfectly suited. You need a birdeye view to get an accurate picture of how things work, being too caught up in the dynamics can blind you to what is happening. I see it all unfold and have been able to ascertain many truths about male and female dating/sexual dynamics. A lot of it is not pretty but nature/biology often has that quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    He doesn’t always. In ‘The Revenant’ his dead wife looked to be similar age maybe 5 years younger than him max.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    As long as you don't give away the secret female handshake they'll never know the real agenda of the hive mind, all they can do is guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Your posts about your exes and their families suggest otherwise. You have a very warped view of the dynamics you claim expertise of.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How would you view the present dynamic regarding DiCaprio?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    It's too basic a dynamic to even elaborate. It's a tale as old as time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I won't be able to make it to the next meeting but pass on my regards and I'll see you at the bake sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Foiled again! And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids with your damn TikToks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty




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    Actually, I was doing the open-minded, "they're consenting adults" thing, but now that I see he has a new girlfriend (who looks younger than 22)... A man in his late 40s dumping his girlfriend when she reaches a certain age, and then commencing a new relationship immediately and this being the pattern he follows continuously... and a woman entering into a relationship with this guy, aware of the pattern, just so she gets to date someone rich and famous... yeah this is completely dysfunctional, weird and toxic. And it's not having a go at men for fancying much younger women.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭growleaves



    I think he is gay behind a PR smokescreen. The big Hollywood star agencies are hand-in-glove with other media like TV/newspapers so they can squash stories more than people may realise.

    It is odd behaviour on the face of it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looks very "engineered" all right. A blatant arrangement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    It makes complete sense and I always suspected something like this was going on. In fairness I had to google who Lukas Hass is, but I would not bat an eyelid if it transpired that Decaprio was homosexual.

    Hollywood has always had an issue with big stars and the US as a nation have always struggled with homosexuality as a lifestyle. It can be incredibly backwards in social awareness and bigotry is rife. Obviously there are countless movie stars and famous types who have no issue expressing their sexuality, but there could well be a consensus amongst the top earners that disclosing your sexual habits can lead to exposing your earning potential to adverse opinion.

    DeCaprio is popular with a large audience, if he was known to be gay this popularity could be marginalised or may not have materialised at all. He may well have decided against taking the risk. He would not have been the first gay man or woman to do so.

    I cannot rationalise the concept that he only likes younger women, it actually does not make sense. He eventually would become bored with women, who whilst being young and attractive, should also become more and more bland to him? Emotionally he should be seeking partners with things he has in common and share himself with? Boning these high spec beauties would lose its appeal after a while. Furthermore, the concept that women over 25 have lost their sex appeal is complete phucking garbage. Heterosexual behaviour would indicate a tendency to seek more experienced and nuanced partners as your sex life progresses. It is highly unlikely these 23 yr old models are dressing in leather gear and pegging him in a dark room till 4 in the morning.... Far more likely to be getting a fat cheque and hush hush contract from his agents, all they have to do is pretend they are his girlfriend for a certain length of time.

    Why has he never had a girlfriend who not only sexually arouses him but also emotionally nourishes him? Men need this in their life. Yes young women are certainly head swingers and often leered at by older men, but they always go back to the wife for the love and care they really need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,409 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    His pickup line never grows old, a lot like his GF's '' the older the Fiddle the sweeter the tune''



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    If he finds younger women more attractive theirs nothing unusual there, most men find younger women more attractive. Him simply been not interested in a long term relationship is a lot more likely than him been gay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    I am not so sure to be honest. I think no matter what your sexuality is, as a human being it would be a lot more common for him to desire more long lasting connections with partners. Look at Brad Pitt, McConaghey or the likes of say Ryan Gosling. These are standard examples of straight Hollywood stars who have involved themselves and embraced monogamous relationships. Why has Leonardo never felt the urge to do so? Clearly this passion for dating younger women is exhibiting some sort of a pattern which appears dubious?

    Young women are fit and can look nice, but sexiness and genuine attractivity is something that stays with you all your life. As would the desire for a more long term meaningful relationship.

    You have to remember that not all Alpha males who attract a plethora of women are all that bothered with the opportunity? It may salivate your average incel who would love the chance, but what incels' do compared to luckier men who have the options contrasts staggeringly? Most Alphas get bored with the same crap being thrown at them day in day out. That is why they seek stronger refined relationships which their love life requires.

    If he was heterosexual he would have settled by now, at least once. This incel driven concept that he is owning his own dating options seems odd.

    Even Jack Nicholson managed to hold down long term, genuine partners. It never stopped him enjoying the company of good time girls either. But he needed the affection and care that a long term relationship can deliver.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    He probably is gay or just fucked up from losing his virginity as a child to some Hollywood sleazebag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    He could be just one of the millions of straight men out there that have no interest in serious commitment. He's probably happy to be able to get everything he wants from a partner without the long term commitment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    He had 2 kids in Shutter island, 1 in The Revenant, 2 in Inception and a very hot wife in Wolf of Wall Street. So he cannot be gay.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Men who say this would absolutely commit if they were getting attractive enough women. They probably just cope with what they can get and once the sex wears off they move on and say they don't care for commitment. LdC is in a different situation obviously. Its not normal the way he does it. It would just be boring for him at this rate. Same bullshit, same introductions, same sexual dynamics, same feeling of power, same kinks, same convo. Its too obvious to not suggest there's something more going on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Not everyone wants long term connections, or is capable of maintaining them. Most people just think everyone else must be somewhat like them and can’t comprehend this concept.



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Either he's an aging,seemingly slightly creepy, extremely wealthy and famous playboy character


    Or is secretly gay with best friend hiding in the open,and starts a series of elaborate relationships with young supermodel type material,while living in LA to cover it up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Your comments is valid. But I do think you are reaching for substance. I like to speculate, it helps develop circumstance or enable plausibility.

    I just can't understand how he has coped having sex with different versions of the same person, it makes no sense?

    From a sex perspective I find it suspicious. A woman's beauty has zero relevance to her sexual appetite. I have had some dreadfully bland sex with some very attractive women, most of them are more caught up in their own narcissism to actually enjoy the moment. In and out of the bathroom checking their make up and showing zero interest altogether. I do admit that good sex involves good chemistry and some partners blend better. But there are an awful amount of gorgeous women out there who are complete planks in the sack.

    Which is what bewilders me more about his modus operandi. You would think a man of his talent and stature would be enjoying his sex life with more mature partners at this point? Older women are much better between the sheets, give me woman in her late thirties who looks after herself and enjoys her love making over a gormless 23 year old who can't even perform decent fellatio, lying there with the white of her eyes staring into nothingness somewhere over your shoulder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    But what’s because you are looking at it with your perspective in mind. It might be as simple as him wanting non committed company and regular sex, and nothing else.

    Not everyone needs a connection to a partner. They serve a purpose for a while, just like a car or any other commodity. You’re just not allowed to voice this attitude.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not sure I'd use the analogy of commodity in relation to a human being, but if both parties are cool with no commitment, more power to them. If anything it eliminates a lot of heartache.

    This Leo situation though seems like some sort of arrangement, that not even he is behind. The way there is such structure to it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I didn’t mean “commodity” in a negative way, but at the end of the day that’s all a partner is if you cant relate to them on a deeper level



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Him being Gay seems to fit, though swapping out women at 25 so regularly as Fugue notes has a structure to it that would surely arouse more doubts, as it has. Though their age and rapid turnover does fit the "Beard" angle. In the sense that I would suspect more women under 25, starting out in life are more likely to enter into a mutually advantageous setup like that, where they have the trappings of fame for two years, a bit of cash at the end of it, keep their gob shut and on with their lives. A woman closer to his age or even in her thirties, especially a very good looking one might be more likely to a) want an actual relationship and b) more self sufficient anyway. Look at those "Sugar daddy" setups where middle aged rich guys put women through university, rent free with gifts etc and they're not looking for women in their late thirties.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    Women that young would wreck your head. He'd have absolutely nothing in common with them. The latest is Ukranian! Similar to Trump with his latest eastern European wife.



  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭gary550


    He's an extremely wealthy film star known by billions of people, I'd hazard a guess that the young ones ain't there to talk about their star signs or favourite colour. I'm gonna bet she likes expensive things, experiences and clout and he can provide it - probably all the commonality they need in the short term.

    And I'm sure whatever Leo says she will agree with, I'm sure they have plenty in common!

    It boggles the mind - why would a man who can have a young, fit, very attractive female with no baggage and have the ability to swap them out like changing his socks and choose to not do that and instead go for someone of similar age who has crested the hill.

    He's nearly 50, how many women in their 40/50's are drop dead smokeshows with no baggage?

    Women that young certainly wreck your head, just not the one you're thinking of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    The fact this is such a big news story is weirder than the story itself imo. That a famous film star only dates young women isn't anything new or surprising. The lifestyle of those with Leonardo di Caprio's wealth, fame, career and opportunities is probably unfathomable to most of us working 9 to 5's in order to pay the mortgage.

    Seriously, just imagine trying to maintain a romantic relationship with someone whose career means they could be spending 6 to 9 months at a time off shooting on location somewhere. It's a very different thing than your "normal" relationship. In fact, it's probably quite similar to a relationship with someone in the military: another industry with a famously high divorce rate. A more casual approach to relationships where one dates for shorter durations might even be a smarter choice for someone in his position than risking marriage (and the high probability of ending up in divorce court), especially if you didn't want kids. And if you're not planning to grow old with those partners, why not opt for the most attractive ones you can find who are open to this kind of setup?

    These women he's dating are grown adults and capable of acting under their own agency. Maybe they're using him for his wealth, fame and the lifestyle that comes with that while he's using them for their youthful bodies or maybe they genuinely fancy him and he them. Charm goes a long way for a man and you can be sure that if he doesn't have it naturally, he's well capable of putting it on.

    The nonsense about power-imbalances just seeks to deprive these women of their own agency so it can suit the speaker/author's own agenda (typically the misandry that passes for modern day feminism - where women are always victims and men are always the enemy). There's probably an element of jealousy of the youth of these women involved too. The fashion and beauty industries wouldn't exist as we know them if people didn't fetishize youth as we do and for all the lengths that some women will go to in order to try and maintain a youthful image, there seems to be more than a few angry / bitter women who hate men that find that same youthful appearance attractive. I'd wager that many of those writing the opinion pieces, blogs and social media posts attacking Di Caprio over his preference for young blondes fall into that category.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    She's getting the obligatory private jet photos for her Instagram so she's happy.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    I think it's pretty offensive to the women who went out with Di Caprio. Lots of people infantilise them as if there is some older man influencing young women who know no better and is too naive/dumb to make an informed decision about who they date.

    Leo likes young women. Man likes young women. Earth-shattering news there.

    It's a combo of people being more aware of paedophiles and the awareness of older men in positions of power/influence abusing younger women. Then trying to project it. All that matters is that consenting adults are involved and no one is being abused.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Aye, regardless of why he's going out with them(beyond the bloody obvious or he's a Gay chap) you'd swear we were talking about teenagers. They're grown arsed women in their twenties for feck's sake. They're not blank slate robots just saying yes. They're getting whatever they're getting out of it and fair enough. But as you say they're infantalised when it suits and as Sleepy notes this tends to suit the "feminist" types who get an attack of the vapours over this kinda thing.

    Hollywood types tend to attract more ire for this sorta thing. Probably because they also tend to be preachy and holier than though Right On types in their pronouncements. De Caprio a good example, wittering on about climate change while pumping out more CO2 in his lifestyle than a couple of hundred Americans and a couple of thousand Africans. Too many of the Hollywood types tend to be real hypocrites. Mick Jagger's damn near 80 years old and his girlfriend and the mother of his latest offspring is in her mid 30's. He caught some static for it, but the debauched rock star thing gives some protection. It's almost expected I suppose? Plus he's with her for a few years.

    Forgetting the wide age gap for a moment and as for the nothing in common aspect; personally I prefer having less in common as far as common experiences go. My idea of purgatory would be "do you remember [insert some nostalgic and very local stuff here]". Now I do understand why others would prefer common ground, but I always found it far more interesting to have different experiences on both sides in a relationship. It's why I've tended to be more attracted to and involved with foreign women* over the years.

    Though even if I were in his position with the cash and fame I really couldn't see myself even thinking about some woman in her early 20's. That would just feel icky, never mind that I'd be very aware I wouldn't get within a hundred yards of the same woman without the cash and fame.




    *and no it's got nada to do with looks/Irish women aren't [insert massive generalisation here] or any of that nonsense.

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    People can have negative views on things without it meaning jealousy etc though.

    It doesn't affect me obviously but my opinion is that it is a highly dysfunctional situation. The women are shameless gold diggers (and some of the "high fives for Leo" lads would have a problem with this in other contexts). And his mechanical schedule doesn't even seem like it's arranged by him.

    Men who say it wouldn't be for them don't deserve to be sneered at - that's just another example of "I'd like it, therefore all other men would". Just because a man in his 30s/40s wouldn't be interested in a relationship with a woman in her early 20s, doesn't mean they aren't still interested in women who are beautiful. Of course whether you can relate to someone is important. Not everyone is just interested in sex/appearance alone (these are important - they're just not the only important things for people).



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Didn't the reclusive and eccentric Hollywood mogul Howard Hughes - portrayed by DiCaprio himself in the film The Aviator - also have a reputation of dating (and in a couple of cases marrying) young stunningly beautiful starlets only to drop/divorce them as they approached 30?

    Perhaps in Leo's case, life is imitating art...



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    True JK, though Hughes used to curate his own wee in bottles and store his toenail clippings in boxes, so was about as well balanced as a one legged man on a unicycle, with vertigo, three pints down. Then again... 😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Method acting taken too far. He hasn't been able to shake off the character.



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    Hell if he can keep up with them let him have his fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    My first lover was way older than I. I knew he felt a bit awkward about it when we were in social situations. Plus I looked and still do look much younger than I actually am. I was 23/25 at the time but prolly looked more like 19/20.

    I had a great time with him. A proper Dub and as masculine a man I've ever met. Loved his football, marathon runner, and all round good egg. Fit as f*k as well. He was a whore for the drink as well, as Irish as they come.

    He used to lie about his age to me but I didn't care, I already knew he was way older than me from the day I met him. I don't think he was over 50 thought, maybe 45 ish.

    Not sure what point I'm making, maybe that young people in their early 20's aren't as naive as we might think they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I don't believe that anyone genuinely believes these young women are actually naïve, it just suits their agenda to infantilise them. There's a growing, and worrying, trend in modern feminism to push the narrative that women should never be held accountable for consequences of their own actions. You even have politicians calling for women to receive no jail time when convicted of crimes ffs (despite already receiving shorter sentencing and having far better prison conditions than male criminals)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    You even have politicians calling for women to receive no jail time when convicted of crimes ffs

    Ivana Bacik?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well young people - male or female - CAN be naive. And they learn from their mistakes as they age. Natural order of things isn't it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Look at attitudes in this forum and how they differ towards the different genders at the same age. It’s quite cringeworthy at times, for example when someone gets referred to as “creepy rapey” just because posters think their relationship should not be legally permitted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't know about Ivana Bacik, but certainly in the UK a Labour politician some years ago, I heard her say it live on TV, Dawn Butler, called for women not to be imprisoned due to the fact their crimes were committed in collaboration with men. That was the argument* anyway. Thankfully when Jeremy Corbyn was ousted she has been seen as a liability for the Labour party, and has been made less prominent in their opposition government front bench since.

    *so what about men who commit crimes in collaboration with men, then hardly anyone would go to prison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Yep, she's Ireland's Misandrist in Chief... been at this craic for years: https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0522/103603-prison/

    Labour will be relegated to the "put them after all the other mainstream parties as a buffer for Sinn Fein and the local lunatics" preference from me until they oust her. Which is a shame because I rather like our local Labour candidates.



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