Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

cgcsb · 23-08-2022 02:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119510064#Comment_119510064

Has tour bus journey time been negatively impacted?

23-08-2022 05:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119510993#Comment_119510993

Sure he's Shameless

Larbre34 · 23-08-2022 05:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511193#Comment_119511193

Tour buses?

Its a fair concern. If Gareth Bruukes is late for his show, they will pull the plug on him at 10.30 regardless and there'll be murders.

LXFlyer · 23-08-2022 05:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119510110#Comment_119510110

Traffic inevitably increases between 8 and 10 when the schools go back for a number of reasons. Aside from people just doing a school run, there are going to be teachers driving to and from work (people seem to forget about them!).

At the same time people who currently leave home earlier or later, may now drop their children off at school en route to work and that means far more people travelling at or around the same time.

Now as to how many of these groups could use the bus or train, or indeed walk or cycle, that’s another thing.

LXFlyer · 23-08-2022 05:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511760#Comment_119511760

I suspect that they meant “your buses”.

Gloomtastic! · 23-08-2022 05:20PM

Traffic is so light at the moment it’s difficult to gauge what it’s going to be like when schools reopen.

The single outbound lane through Fairview seems to mean traffic moves faster than two lanes having to merge.

I think they should make all Dublin Buses that pass through Fairview free for the duration of the roadworks. Out of the €63m budget, it would be a pittance.

Citizen Six · 23-08-2022 05:20PM

For some other recent concert in Croke Park, they closed Alfie Byrne outbound, to accommodate busses. Wonder if it'll be the same this time around.

spurious · 23-08-2022 05:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511829#Comment_119511829

Gah. There goes my avoidance plan. :)

Citizen Six · 23-08-2022 05:42PM

It might be different this time, and I'm sure details can be found online.

There's always the port tunnel. 😂

Larbre34 · 23-08-2022 06:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511801#Comment_119511801

You must be great craic at parties.

magicbastarder · 23-08-2022 07:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511793#Comment_119511793

don't forget that many people are on holidays at the moment too - a lot to do with the schools being off, but work related traffic drops significantly in the summer anyway, and it's not directly related to people driving to schools.

LXFlyer · 23-08-2022 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119512213#Comment_119512213

Absolutely and I do get that, but I wasn’t really referring to the sudden increase but rather to why there are the numbers there are. Some people do seem to forget that a lot of teachers drive as well. It’s not just parents dropping kids to school as you point out.

Then in a few weeks the colleges go back, and Dublin Bus will get the annual barrage of tweets from people saying that they can’t get on the bus anymore before said people realise that they need to leave earlier. Every year it’s the same!

Jayuu · 23-08-2022 08:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119511193#Comment_119511193

Not generally - one day there was a quite a delay getting over the railway bridge on North Strand for some reason.

The worry would be if traffic gets so piled up that it fill Fairview itself. That shouldn't impact the Malahide Road buses as there is a bus lane but it might cause some samll delay at the junction.

KevRossi · 23-08-2022 08:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119510595#Comment_119510595

This happens after every concert in Croke Park. I used to live near there. It's just to filter people out as efficiently as possible.

Nothing new there.

spurious · 23-08-2022 09:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119512737#Comment_119512737

Except that now you have all the traffic diverted along Ballybough Road which will be closed.

Presumably they will suggest a different way for those of us that obey the diversion to get home, or possibly allow people drive up North Strand.

24-08-2022 09:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119512974#Comment_119512974

It's the same with Matches in Croke Park though - safety for the 50 to 80k people who all have to walk out of the stadium, I'm always amazed at the muppets trying to drive around the area before and after matches. Delays to people driving will be due to their ignorance and the thousands of people walking on the roads rather than anything to do with the North Strand.

Citizen Six · 24-08-2022 09:53AM

Clontarf road at Alfie Byrne section being reduced to a single lane in both directions this weekend. Best avoided!

24-08-2022 10:04AM

Cycled through Fairview and North Strand this morning. You really need to take the road due to the width of the lane. Only taxis, buses, bikes and motorbikes in the inbound lane this morning. And I nearly fell off my bike when I spotted a Garda roads policing motorbike travelling outbound - finally a police presence.

Citizen Six · 24-08-2022 10:26AM

I had a car approach me from behind yesterday evening on the inbound lane, starting beeping like mad to get me out of the way and then would speed towards me and brake last minute. When he came alongside me he was going crazy, fućking and blinding at me, as was his wife, all while their kids were in the back. But he seemed like the kind of person who doesn't usually obey traffic laws anyway.

spurious · 24-08-2022 10:32AM

They have removed some of those plastic stick bollards things separating inward and outward on the stretch opposite the park. Had a trouser-changing moment this morning when some taxi driver who didn't realise/care it was only one lane inward/bus lane decided to overtake a cyclist and veer into the outbound lane. Of course lots of beeping as if it was somehow my fault he had crossed into my lane. So many nutters on the road.

Beta Ray Bill · 25-08-2022 10:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119510110#Comment_119510110

Some people just like their cars, and are prepared to sit in the traffic. 100% not for me at all.

In terms of the percentage I'd say its extremely low

I think people drive their kids to school and then instead of heading home and getting PT it's more convenient to just drive in (even if it's a bit slower)

Even taking that aside, the amount of cars that just have 1 person in them is very high, it's insanely inefficient.

But Definitely next week is when the Poop hits the spinny thing.

I walked to Clontarf Rd train station today, traffic was very heavy up the coast road. The filter lanes on to and off the Alfie Byrne road have been removed permanently, so that's really slowed things up to. To add the cycle lane they have built approaching the bridge does not seem wide enough to me. (Unless there is gonna be a cycle lane on the other side of the road.)

Citizen Six · 25-08-2022 12:35PM

People are already commenting that it might not be wide enough. It's 1.7m wide it seems. Lots of service manholes located on the cycle path too, which isn't a good idea in my mind.

Sir Galahad · 25-08-2022 05:49PM

Regarding the "closure of the inbound rail bridge arch" . . . . . . . I've just been told it's "not" going ahead now. Although they might do it in the future. It really seems that they are making it up as they go along.

Citizen Six · 25-08-2022 06:16PM

Maybe they thought it would be too much disruption, and can manage it a different way. Would you rather they just ploughed on regardless, and didn't make things easier for motorists if the possibility was there?

tomfoolery60 · 25-08-2022 07:05PM

Is it just me or are the motorists illegally using the bus lane inbound unusually patient! Was shocked with the lack of overtaking attempts and other dangerous maneuvers this week.

Disappointing not to see any enforcement again today. I'd say if they don't do it when the schools go back it'll be a joke/more of a joke

Larbre34 · 26-08-2022 12:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521777#Comment_119521777

Who, Dublin City Council?

Never......

spurious · 26-08-2022 07:50AM

Could somebody interpret this diagram regarding this coming weekend at the Clontarf Road/Alfie Byrne junction please?

These works will run from 7.30pm on Friday 26th August to 8pm on Sunday 28th August.

https://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/2022-08/c22001_00_040a-rev00-c2cc_section-7_phase-1d-enabling-works-sg-system.pdf

Does it mean there is no right turn onto Alfie Byrne? I can't make head nor tail of it.

LXFlyer · 26-08-2022 08:01AM

The junction will be operated using physically manned stop/go signs and retreated stop lines.

Traffic will be held back to where the stop/go signs are and will operate between them one way at a time.

Yes, you will be able to turn right there, but I’d expect significant delays

spurious · 26-08-2022 08:10AM

Me and all the trucks.

Anywhere 'Road Control' are with their lollipops has horrendous delays. I ran in to them up at Artaine Castle roundabout late the other night. It's as if they are on a timer and nobody has the wit when nothing is coming the other way to let traffic through.

Citizen Six · 26-08-2022 08:17AM

i wouldn't drive anywhere near there this weekend, and I live right beside it. There's other ways around.

Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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