Peter McVerry attacked

Ham_Sandwich · 14-06-2022 02:17PM

people are saying all sorts of things about the circumstances of how this happened at the time it did look no ones businees but there own there were no charges so should just be dropped and move on

Dean Court · 18-08-2022 11:01AM

McVerry and his organisation are placing mentally disturbed individuals into well managed city center apartment blocks where they are causing massive trouble to their neighbours. ( mostly alcohol/drug related and individuals you would not approach if you were wise )

I know, because I'm Chairman of an OMC who has to deal with these types.

Owner can sell who they want to and Sustainable Housing buys up all one-bedroom apartments in D8, regardless of the cost, who they then sell on to McVerry. No wonder young professionals can't afford to buy an apartment in central Dublin when up against buyers with endless pockets!!

Anyone know if the McVerry Trust has paid up, from their vast reserves, for the bills for employing a Security Firm to provide safety for residents who have been threatened by such individuals ?? (or do they just ignore there bills and await Court action for recovery) ? Also, anyone know if they pay fines imposed for anti-social behaviour ?

Does the Trust take cognisance of the fact that young non-Irish famalies may live close to them and may not know how to go about reporting disturbances, thus living in a hell..(Some owners don't give a toss about their tenants)

Also anyone know how they provide 24 hour contact details should trouble kick-off in the middle of the night ? They only work 9-5 and won't commit to phone calls being answered out-of-hours. (The Gardai can't do much).

Any suggestions of how to alleviate this serious problem gratefully received.

Real life replies appreciated.

rightmove · 18-08-2022 11:22AM

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The cost of virtue politics, once again. Its the ppl who play by the rules that loose out.

Brucie Bonus · 18-08-2022 12:05PM

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This will hardly help his cause now would it? I'd say everyone and their dog heard about it in the vicinity.

GavPJ · 18-08-2022 12:09PM

Peter McVerry is a great man.

I have my reservations about the charity though. Donations being

used to pay bail and fines is not money well spent in my opinion.

But hey you know what they say about opinions.

Dyr · 18-08-2022 12:30PM

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This has been McVerrys modus operandi since he began, have his waifs and strays cause havoc in a neighborhood, the locals complain, he shrugs his shoulders and says the accomodation is not suitable for the needs of his waifs but he has nowhere else to go, He then gets a new facility from the local authorities somehwere else and moves another rung up the property ladder

Must have seen Travellers pulling that scam and decided he could work it too.

blanch152 · 18-08-2022 03:18PM

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All of the homeless charities need a real looking at and a serious audit. Taxpayers money handed over to them and misspent and wasted.

corner of hells · 18-08-2022 04:01PM

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Absolutely, I work for a homeless charity , I'm having my Christmas Dinner now on my yacht in the Mediterranean.

blanch152 · 18-08-2022 04:20PM

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It is likely your CEO is doing something like that, many on them on salaries well over 100k.

apache · 18-08-2022 11:43PM

Interesting all this talk of Peter McVerry. Had many dealings with him. He used to come into the prisons. Always trying to pass tobacco to the prisoners. Bringing in expensive tracksuits and runners. This is going back 20 years.

Never liked the man. Always something about him.....actually surprised that he wasn't caught before for something...

Brucie Bonus · 19-08-2022 01:16AM

So the man, a known advocate for the homeless, is attacked. This opens him up to further attacks on his character and field.

Some people really have an issue with the idea of homelessness.

mazdamiatamx5 · 19-08-2022 01:46AM

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What did you do to get a 20 year stretch?

TheValeyard · 19-08-2022 11:43AM

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Caught for something? Like what?

Mrs OBumble · 19-08-2022 12:46PM

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I'd imagine s/he joined the Public Service!

Tis a different kind of caught.

corner of hells · 20-08-2022 12:38PM

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He's in the public eye making himself an easy target , most CEOs and representives of homeless services aren't as vocal .I'd imagine most people would struggle to name PMVTs current CEO or the CEOs of Focus Ireland etc off the top of their head.

Richard Hillman · 13-09-2022 07:11PM

Just catching up on the RTE News about the dead body found in the flat in Dublin.

It was a PMV property. The person who was supposed to be there left weeks ago. Locals were saying it was used as a drugs den. PMV employees/volunteers were visiting it right up to this week, whilst a dead body was left on the balcony. Neighbours complained about the smell.

Peter McVerry trust are saying they were not aware it was being used as a drugs den, even though they had been visiting the property.

An absolute sham of an organisation. It is their property. The guy who was supposed to be the tennant had abandoned it weeks ago. Why was it still open? They knew full well it was being used for drugs, considering the knew the people who were in there and they were drug users. And they never noticed the dead body on the balcony???

Fandymo · 13-09-2022 09:14PM

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His real name is Peter McVerryMediaSavvy

StrawbsM · 13-09-2022 09:26PM

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I’m gonna take a guess and say that the above post was about the same flat in today’s news?

Crazy story that wouldn’t be out of place as a scene from trainspotting.

elperello · 13-09-2022 09:33PM

RIP

Sad end for the poor soul.

zg3409 · 14-09-2022 04:42PM

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According to the radio today the body was inside covered by clothing, not on the balcony.

rightmove · 14-09-2022 08:17PM

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Looks like ...oh no sorry they wont listen to you now either.....

you called it right though

retalivity · 14-09-2022 08:30PM

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The one from yesterday was in D7. The poster above is in D8, and from the username you can pinpoint nearly exactly where they are talking about...

The flats yer man was found in are old corpo flats, but PMV has been quietly buying/given apartments in private OMC apartment blocks around the city centre. I'm about 500m away from where I presume the above poster is, and PMV have bought/been given 2 apts in my block as well, in the process outbidding people trying to buy homes. Insanity.

screamer · 14-09-2022 08:41PM

I think the bigger issue here is the fact that there are mentally disturbed people with no facilities, being looked after by private organisations rather than having properly funded and government run services. there is far too much reliance on “charities” to do what the government should be doing. In that void, you have all sorts of shenanigans going on. It’s a bit like the state leaving the Catholic Church to run various things in the past, and we all know how well that turned out.

I Blame Sheeple · 15-09-2022 01:19PM

nvm whats the point

TLDR; pmv is a farce along with the rest of the NGOs/charities in the country

corner of hells · 15-09-2022 03:28PM

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Absolutely, particularly that Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association, shower of fcukers.

Mrs OBumble · 15-09-2022 05:34PM

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These private organisations are not-for-profit, but they are not charities. They receive government funding for the services they provide, and pay their social-care and professional staff accordingly to government salary scales.

The real issue is that the Housing First model places dysfunctional people in private sector rentals whether or not they are able for independent living. In theory they get intensive support so problems are avoided. In practise it's very hard to support someone who doesn't want to engage and only cares about their next fix.

corner of hells · 15-09-2022 07:41PM

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I can remember being at meetings around Housing First being brought in method of support for the most dysfunctional individuals and being told about the wrap round supports to be made available.

Supports were to be tenancy sustainment , medical inclusive of both mental health and physical , addiction support , generic and drug counselling, regular door knock to the individuals.

All Bellshill, the amount of tenancies that fell apart in the first couple of weeks was astonishing .

Today , I can think of three tenancies that were definitely sustained in over 13 years.

Lack of support ( no such thing as wrap round support )and poorly trained staff being the cause.

Hotblack Desiato · 17-09-2022 04:45PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2022/09/17/countless-complaints-raised-about-kevin-barry-house-flat-where-body-of-tony-dempsey-was-found/

Residents of Kevin Barry House in Dublin witnessed people injecting drugs and reported overhearing loud arguments and fights happening late at night at flat number one for months before the body of a man in his 20s was discovered there last week, according to complaints seen by The Irish Times.

“Countless” complaints were made to Dublin City Council (DCC) about the flat going as far back as 18 months ago.

On January 20th, a woman was seen sitting outside the door of the flat “injecting herself ... she was waiting to be let in,” the complaint said.

The complaints were sent to the DCC Estate manager on January 24th this year.

The woman living in the flat, who was previously homeless and had been placed in the property by the Peter McVerry Trust (PMVT) was brought to a meeting the following day with DCC and PMVT representatives.

However, residents claim “nothing was done” afterwards, except for a “couple of visits” from the tenants’ case workers, who, the residents, claim, told the residents that they were “too intimidated” to properly inspect the flat.

Two former staff members of the PMVT told The Irish Times there were “often no consequences” for clients of the Trust, “even in the case of actual threats or violence against staff”. Staff work in “very precarious, dangerous situations”, with a “huge caseload put on them”, they said.

A disgrace. People should not have to put up with this sort of scumbag behaviour among their homes. The McVerry crowd are just enabling drug users. This organisation needs to be shut down tbh and DCC need to get their act together.

17-09-2022 05:00PM

I believe Fr Peter McVerry is a sincerely motivated man, with his heart in the right place; however the organisation is no longer one I support. I don’t like the virtue politics as others have pointed out here, I don’t like the way to a of money pours through this organisation with seemingly no filters. People in the city centre apartments are enduring stuff they should not have to. There are people I know who have had a very bad start to life, people in addiction etc who take opportunities to pull themselves up, whereas many of the folk McVerry Trust provide for are for one reason or another pulling even more people down into their circle of addiction and it doesn’t get better. I prefer to see money afforded to help incentivise people along a more coping path in life, where that is possible. Mental health services, education, alternatives to help people be the best person they can be.

Peter McVerry attacked

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