Peter McVerry attacked

TheValeyard

Man gets assaulted who has spent his whole life helping the poor and homeless in Dublin. Somehow he's the bad guy. Some of ye really need to have a proper look at yourselves.

Yurt2

Edit: Wrong thread

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197180#Comment_119197180

My missus oversees work done by various charities that get government funding, she's not over enamored with with mcverrys to say the least.

If staff are left on their own n get battered it's usually his outfit over all the others.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197918#Comment_119197918

Pretty much all 3rd level social care colleges and universities have advised all there students not to do work placement for the McVerry Trust.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197818#Comment_119197818

Why did you misquote the original poster? He originally said the "business of homelessness", now you have very snidely changed it to be "to cause homelessness".

Very disingenuous on your part.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197941#Comment_119197941

Who gives a sh*t. It's still dead-inside swill and utter stupidity.

The McVerry Trust is not a business. It's an NGO at least attempting to take on the most acute social issue in our country.

That makes him a target for unpleasant people who really should do some soul searching.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197157#Comment_119197157

Someone (eg neighbour) who overheard the commotion/came upon the scene OR associate of the addict who assaulted him OR associate of Fr McVerry. I’d kind of bet that a neighbour might have got to know, maybe they are tired of this stuff happening in their vicinity & finally brought it to attention. Else an associate of Fr McVerry who was alarmed for his safety, & wanted the guards to keep an eye on his safety.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197960#Comment_119197960

You can fling around as many insults as you want, all it serves is to highlight how little you have to say.

Not a business? The McVerry income in 2014 was €10.6million, in 2020 it was €56 million! Its a growing multi million euro business dressed up in charity shop clothing.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198016#Comment_119198016

It does not operate for profit and is a registered charity. You have a words problem.

Every NGO you care to name has an operating income. What are they supposed to provision housing from? Wattle and daub and the rosary? Screw your head on would you.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198016#Comment_119198016

Any idea of the services it provides?

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197960#Comment_119197960

Charities in Ireland have proved themselves beyond reproach over the last few years. Anyone who questions anything about them is dead inside, unpleasant bla bla bla. You got nothing but insults lad- keep em coming.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197935#Comment_119197935

Wouldn't be surprised, they cut a lot of corners which put staff at risk. No issues with them squandering money according to the missus which at least in itself is reassuring.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198071#Comment_119198071

If you've got evidence of malfeasance on behalf of the McVerry Trust put it up.

The real issue here is the McVerry orgnisation helps people at the bottom of Ireland's social strata, and that's enough to set a lot of sh*tbags off.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198086#Comment_119198086

I'm working in low threshold homeless services years , PMVT is no different than any other charity in that environment.

dasdog

Not nice but McVerry is a never ending sticking plaster. He would be better served working to get injection centres open with medical grade heroin for opiate and in the coming years crack cocaine addicts. My uncle who is from a religious background performs a McVerry type role in Chicago but is similarly treating the wound but not the disease.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198086#Comment_119198086

McVerry & DePaul the two biggest homeless services in the country do not care about the service users or the staff it is all about keeping the charity status for tax reasons and and getting in as much money as possible into that business just like any multi national where the board members are paid huge moneys and to keep that gravy train running they need the buisness of homelesness to continue close to 80% of homeless in this contry are repeat homeless service users who are used to keep that business going by these buisnesses.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198186#Comment_119198186

So , homeless services want to keep people homeless ?

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198186#Comment_119198186

Board members on a charity aren't allowed receive a salary.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198186#Comment_119198186

That's the conspiracy theory alright.

What's really going on is these people have hatred coming out their pores, the thought of the lowest rung in society having a secure roof over their head triggers them - they think they're getting something for nothing and they're missing out on some sort of resource as a result.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198346#Comment_119198346

Was about to post this. Beavis claiming board members are taking fat salaries but doesn't have a bean how they operate.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198351#Comment_119198351

You seem very triggered by anybody daring to speak anything less than fulsome about your sacred cow. Bile and insults in all directions, I wonder why that is? Could it be that you benefit from this gravy train yourself?

McVerry trust received €30m state funding in 2020, despite having €28m unrestricted reserves carried over from 2019. But don't look too closely, they are just a charitee.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198346#Comment_119198346

Shhhhh , willya.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198470#Comment_119198470

Is that your smoking gun?

Ever ran anything besides a school tuck shop?

Sad sad sad.

Edit: work nowhere near the charity / NGO sector btw, so guess again discount Columbo

elperello

https://www.charitiesregulator.ie/en/information-for-charities/who-is-a-charity-trustee#:~:text=Will%20I%20get%20paid%20for,receive%20other%20benefits%20for%20this.

No pay for being a board member of a charity.

Sad to have to post this in a thread about a 78 year old priest being assaulted by someone he tried to help.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198558#Comment_119198558

Insult after insult after insult. And all because Yurt didn't read the original post properly in his rush to get offended.

touts

Don't have a lot of time for the "Charity" over 70% of the donations get spent on staff wages which is a lot for an organisation claiming to be focused on buying homes etc.

But Fr Peter seems like he genuinely cares. Apparently he personally takes nothing out of the "charity". It's just the people who have attached themselves to his name. He didn't deserve this attack. Hope he makes a full recovery.

mickdw

There is something I don't like about Fr McVerry but I don't see him as having done anything other than good.

I was shocked to see that the wage bill within his charity is many many millions per year but this is slightly different to some other charities where wages relate to admin staff.

Much of the McVerry wage bill relates to services direct to the needy such as carers etc so nothing wrong with that.

slay55

The assault was definitely related to homelessness and nothing else?

riclad

He does great work to help homeless people and to help them find safe accompdation, homeless services have to train and employ people to deal with people who may be using drugs or may be drunk. They usually travel in groups of 2 or 3 people in vans. Every ngo needs an income it comes from donations or government grants employees need to be paid and there are costs like rent insurance energy gas heating bills , to provide services like cafes drop in centres

Dempo1

It's truely perplexing why Peter McVerry attracts such Vitriol. Whilst there's obviously been outrageous stories of corruption in numerous charities, to my mind there's never been a single accusation or investigation of the Peter Mc Verry Trust.

Some seem to think its success, Revenues, Turnover is almost offensive, when it's main objective is to help people out of homelessness. It's main assets are infact homes they've built and financed for the purpose of housing people. Perhaps it's easy to assume Shenanigans at play given high profile cases involving other charities but that's just entirely unfair.

I actually volunteered at the capuchin centre many years ago and would often see Mc Verry poping in, talking with & supporting homeless people at a time he wasn't as well known. He is held in high regard by the Capuchins and service user's.

Of course like every one he's not immune from flaws, has some strident views but without such people caring, speaking up and actually doing something, the homelessness situation would be far worse (if that's even possible)

The attack in his mind was a private matter and clearly there was mental health and addiction aspect to it, I won't judge Mc Verry for making any decisions that affected him personally , I'm only guessing but I suspect his charitable side informed his decision he is after all a priest. People suggest him not reporting this or lodging a criminal complaint affects others, the assailant is clearly troubled, I've no doubt Gardai know who it is and regardless of any complaint they'll have spoken to the individual and perhaps will discretely cast a closer eye on this persons movements.

This really is a private matter, awful as it is, how or why it was leaked is a mystery but to conflate this with Mc Verrys charitable work over decades is quite frankly, disgraceful.