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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭briany


    And that's why the ridiculous court cases and sworn affidavits brought by the Trump team in the wake of the 2020 election don't really matter. It was never about successfully demonstrating that fraud took place, but rather about planting that seed in the mind of voters and generating political will to restrict voting rights and install Trump loyalists in positions that would make it easier to circumvent democratic results in future elections if those results aren't to Trump's liking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    ...or in Mexico drinking Tea and eating Big macs. 😁

    Dan.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Absolutely..

    It's never been about winning (at least not for those outside the immediate Trump inner circle) it's all about making people think that all these new voting laws are necessary so they can absolutely control the outcome of all future elections..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭PropJoe10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,198 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Respectfully disagree.

    He main hold the base, but moderate republicans, independents and democrats will not stomach Trump for 4 more years.

    I am hoping he runs frankly.

    The midterms will be an indication but only truly relevant at that moment in time.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    There are very few moderate Republicans left in places of influence - they either go pro-Trump or lose their ats a la Cheney. The democrats aren't doing anything worthwhile to inspire confidence. Dunno about the independents.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,198 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "There are very few moderate Republicans left in places of influence - they either go pro-Trump or lose their ats a la Cheney"

    The people running may win the nomination, but it's all about what the public want when it comes to the elections. Sure, there are examples of extreme trumpite candidates winning but there are also examples of those losing.

    Red states may remain red, but there will be a lot more closely run elections in battleground states.


    "The democrats aren't doing anything worthwhile to inspire confidence."

    The fact is they have. There is a problem with messaging but they absolutely have passed key legislation. They need to nail that **** down. The problem is, Trump's legal woes are a lot more interesting to people so little time is spent informing folks on positive news.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,767 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I like to be optimistic, the fucker could keel over and die before 2025. He's not exactly young.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,868 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I can't remember who it was, maybe John Oliver, who did a piece about how the Democrats keep focusing on Federal elections; the House and Senate. The GOP put a lot of effort into the State elections; local judges, school boards, mayors, State officials etc.

    It helps the GOP because it gives them greater control in what happens within the states, what's being taught in schools, police budgets, state laws, gerrymandering and also voting laws (how many polling centres, where are they, what ID is needed, voting registers etc).

    That's a huge part of why the GOP maintain the hold they have over a lot of states which could otherwise shift away from them. The Dems aim for the level where they can do big things nationally, but the GOP are more focused on more numerous, smaller changes throughout the country.

    Trump has created and fired up enough of a rabid base at low levels who will seep into those school boards and local official levels that will end up having a huge impact further down the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Are the swing voters going to be happy with the bills though? Even if they know about them?

    But therin lies the other porblem: the media. They will always focus on Trum0, good or bad.

    Elections are ultimateyl won by who shouts the loudest - and that's going to be te Republicans.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Also the food he claims to eat coupled with his bizarre theory that humans have a finite amount of energy like a battery so he refuses to do any formal exercise isn't gonna leave him long for this world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,868 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Well when you hire sycophantic doctors like Ronny Jackson who tell you you're the healthiest President who ever lived, why would you feel the need to eat better or do exercise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Can you imagine the conspiracy theories of he did die?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,868 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "TRUMP / JFK Jr 2052 - Make Qamerica Great Again!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    If anyone is absolutely guaranteed to live to the age of 100, it's Donald J Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Economics101


    We know that turnout in mid-terms is less than in Presidential election years: this probably benefits the GOP. Next question: what is the turnout in primaries, like Wyoming? If it's quite low (jut a hunch) then a general election result could be quite different when those (alas) lazy Dems turn out. Not much info on this side of the pond about these details.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Wyoming is tiny population wise , only a few hundred thousand in total (they still get 2 Senators though!!)

    Wyoming is as Red as anywhere could be - The Primary is the real election there.

    Cheney was beaten by a ratio of ~2:1 which is roughly what the general election would look like for the GOP against any Democrat challenger.

    That seat is staying with the GOP and will be taken by Hageman who believes the Big lie and has a long career as a lawyer fighting against Environmental and social laws in Wyoming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Thanks, I realise what you say about deep red Wyoming; I was thinking of primaries in congressional districts which are more competitive and where primaries may not dive a close prediction.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I think that there is a general opportunity for the Democrats to mobilise their voters - The GOP rarely seem to have that issue.

    It's not really about 2022 , it's about 2024 and it's the State level elections that matter.

    If for example, Kari Lake gets elected in Arizona as Governor in November , the Democrats can forget about winning the State in a 2024 POTUS Election as she will simply over-turn any result other than a clear GOP win.

    There are several other States at the same risk - If the Democrats focus on that to drive engagement and turn-out it could be crucial to the results.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If U.S. states begin to overturn votes just because it wasn't the result its governor wanted, then you don't have rule by consent, nor a cohesive democracy or perhaps even a country. I don't think someone like Kari Lake is truly prepared to handle the chaos she could be instigating by pandering to Trumpers on that level.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,038 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I don't see any mental slowdown in Trump, he's perfectly electable in the eyes of his supporters and many Americans in terms of health. Yeah, technically he should be infirm going by his lifestyle by now, but he continues to buck that trend somehow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I like the fact that she has now hinted she might just run for President in 2024. Potential headache for the GOP and entertaining to see just how annoyed he'd get!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Depends on how she chooses to run.

    If she simply runs in the primaries against Trump it's pointless , she'll get wiped out.

    Now - If she ran a well funded National campaign as an Independent it might present an opportunity to split the GOP vote in places to the benefit of the Democrat candidate. She could do a Perot - maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I think she'd look at the latter if it happens as it gives her a better opportunity. She's got lots of brownie points on get excellent work on the Jan 6th hearings. Then again the chance to wreck his head in GOP primaries might be too much of a temptation!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It would be easy to cut together a video montage of Trump making weird gaffes and present that as Trump has dementia, as has been done with Biden. As far as his physical health goes, Trump may be an argument that pettiness and a desire for revenge can really keep a man going. He doesn't have a regular exercise regimen, drinks several sodas a day and extols the virtues of McDonalds' food. The experts would tell you he should have died about two decades ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    That concession speech by Cheney last night was very interesting, she said she does not believe her political career is over and that she "will do whatever it takes to ensure Trump is never again anywhere near the Oval Office. And I mean it"". Then asked about a run on NBC she said "It’s something I’m thinking about, and I’ll make a decision in the coming months"

    Given her political career in the GOP is effectively over that can only mean she is considering running as an independent. She said she is now going to start a PAC dedicated to unifying Reps, Democrats and Independents to keep Trump out of the White House. That would be some epic level trolling of Trump because Cheney would easily manage to take 10% of the GOP vote off Trump to prevent him winning in 2024 and that would drive him absolutely nuts. If she does look like entering the race suddenly Bidens current odds of 11/2 look to be a bargain.

    Trumps response to Cheney on his platform-

    Liz Cheney should be ashamed of herself, the way she acted, and her spiteful, sanctimonious words and actions towards others. Now she can finally disappear into the depths of political oblivion where, I am sure, she will be much happier than she is right now. Thank you WYOMING!

    Its almost like he is goading her into running, he has no tact whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,249 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Makes sense. The Repiblican Party has been in civil war mode since the election "theft", theres the regular normal Republicans who actually have Republican beliefs, and the Trump diehards who worship DonDon above everything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,037 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You saw those recent shots of him playing golf right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,198 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Oh go and **** off.

    Such a weak and petty little man-baby!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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