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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Mac_Lad71


    I have regularly spoken to Ukrainian "refugees" and ALL that I have spoken to have come here from safe countries.

    They are economic migrants or to be more accurate welfare tourists from a corrupt society who are intent on bleeding us dry enabled by our own inept virtual signalling politicians and myopic do-gooders such as yourself who need to do something to feel good about themselves to fill their otherwise empty days.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,958 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You think "taxpayers" (specifically you) should get to decide what private businesses do?

    Cool. I disagree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,958 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I have regularly spoken to Ukrainian "refugees" and ALL that I have spoken to have come here from safe countries

    Considering commercial air travel has been suspended and the ports are blocked what do you expect?

    😂



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is this the crucial ‘work’ that you do to get you out of the house? What help have you ever extended to Irish people in need?

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, those of us who actually have to legitimately work for a living, whilst trying to raise young families, concern ourselves about where this is all heading and the ramifications this will have on our children’s futures. Will their education be compromised? What kind of society will they inherit?

    That’s us taxpayers by the way. You know, those schmucks who are paying for this entire charade, as well as financing your pension.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    Do you always post a selfie imogi of yourself after each comment?.

    How about stay in the country of Origin ie Poland, Moldova, Romania ect.

    The do-gooders bringing kids in unaccounted need to stop also, along with the Muppets driving busses from the EU here. Let's call it a welfare bus, for welfare tourists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Barbosa92


    In Poland you would call her a refugee. When she landed in Ireland she became an economic migrant masquerading as a refugee.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Meanwhile, in a village school in my county……a primary school begging for more students in order to get an extra teacher. Every cloud has a silver lining!

    https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/home/884312/urgent-tipperary-primary-school-needs-just-one-more-pupil-to-get-an-extra-teacher.html



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You know, that’s a question I would love answered. How many Ukrainians has she personally accommodated?

    An older woman with an entire house to herself, who is desperately seeking validation for her altruistic nature, has surely taken in some of these unfortunate people.

    She has ample time to host, cook, and clean to ensure that her ‘guests’ are comfortable and well looked after. The operative question is how many she invited into her otherwise empty home? Prior to the Ukrainian crisis, what material steps did she take to help those less fortunate or disadvantaged in her own community?

    I think we also know the answers to these questions. The Mother ‘MaryAnn’ of Clonmel facade is starting to look increasingly threadbare..



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Meanwhile, those of us who live in Dublin, particularly multicultural areas in the West of the city, worry about the additional infusion of more non-English speaking children, in schools where 30% -40% of the pre-existing student body already struggle with the language of this country.

    Just to remind you ‘MaryAnn’, that’s us younger, economically-active Irish people, trying to raise our own young families. You might spare us a thought when you’re next collecting your pension. We’re paying for it after all..

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If you say so. Poland is really a staging area now and the vast majority are moved on to other countries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Barbosa92




  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    “. You might spare us a thought when you’re next collecting your pension. We’re paying for it after all..”

    Why, thank you. Very generous of you. But………

    I don’t suppose my 50odd years working, paying “Stamps” PRSI, PAYE went in any way towards my pension?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Vox populi as policy or safety of the mob at work? Neither is evidence of much ability to reflect without some form of underlying emotion, usually rage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,497 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    No, I think taxpayers should have a say what governments do with our wellbeing and money :). Cool.



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let’s get real ‘MaryAnne’. It’s clear you were never exactly a high flyer who contributed very much to the exchequer.

    Those of us who are seeing more than 50% of our salaries disappear in taxes are financing the bulk of that pension.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Where there is negligent waste maybe we can challenge it, in reality we really don't. We vote for politicians and if we, the people, approve of their policies and by extension what they spend the money on we vote for them again or an alternative. If you really want to do something about this why aren't you doing so in RL instead of just venting on now a little used forum.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You obviously don’t remember the 70’s!

    You’re getting a tad too agitated. Maybe take a break. And reflect on who will pay you pension.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Mac_Lad71


    I expect genuine refugees to be happy they have reached safety before making the economic decision to travel across Europe to become a welfare tourist in Ireland.



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’m not agitated at all dear. However, it does seem like pointing out the financial implications of your demented musings, is getting you a little hot under the collar. That’s understandable though..

    Getting back to the point at hand, there used to be the concept of a social contract between generations. The next generation works hard so that the previous one can live out their ‘golden’ years with dignity. The problem is ‘MaryAnne’ that your mindset violates that contract.

    Not only do you expect me and my children to finance your retirement, you are also advocating that we pay for an unfettered influx of people, many of whom will never be net contributors for the duration of their stay in this country.

    And you wonder why those of us who are financing this are perturbed ‘MaryAnne’? I suggest you go outside and give your head wobble dear. It might just inject some clarity into those broken thought processes of yours.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,180 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    That’s not ‘getting real’ about anything. It amounts to nothing more than an attempt to take a nasty, and frankly petty swipe at someone who doesn’t share your opinions regarding the social and public policies of our Government.

    It’s also factually incorrect to boot, and I certainly don’t want to be included in your shìtty narrative in which you refer to ‘us’, whether it’s your ideas of ‘younger, economically active Irish people trying to raise our own young families’ or ‘high-flyers who contributed more than others to the exchequer’, or ‘those of us who are seeing 50% of our salaries disappear in taxes’ who you imagine are funding the bulk of any one individuals pension.

    Laughable that you would try and portray yourself as a high-flyer while taking a pop at a pensioner who was contributing to this country’s economy before your arse was big as a shirt-button.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Media blackout alert!

    Not a mention of Ukrainian refugees when speaking about housing and students, schools, healthcare etc.. The elephant in the room.

    Why is there no media outlet here prepared to speak up for the (now) second class Irish Citizen? Very odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,497 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    say the Asdf newspaper took a negative or honest view….. they KNOW that xxx,xxx Ukrainians are here for good with more coming…. They want them buying that newspaper.

    businesses want their money

    politicians want their votes.

    soooo. That’s why there is silence, that’s why we are donald ducked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I think it has to be more than that. Asylum seekers and refugees are going to read their own media in their lingo, same for radio/tv I would have thought. Easy to do these days.

    Anyway I fired off an email to Newstalk to see if they would discuss the issue of housing and student/other accommodation on the back of the Ukraine influx. No acknowledgment, no reply, no out of office, nothing. Too woke to be awake. I was reading an article in the IT the other day re the student accommodation crisis and NOT ONCE was the Ukraine issue mentioned. Same with a similar article as to why private landlords are leaving. Not a mention about squatting non paying tenants, oh no it was slanted towards the view that LLs are selling up to make loadsa dough from the housing price situation.

    You'd be mythered with the cover up going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Did anyone hear Vincent Woods portrait of Co.Clare this morning. One of the principal issues raised was the difficulty to get accommodation this year for the sort of people that make Clare a cultural place and get it to tick in summer. AirBnB was mentioned and blamed and holiday houses and so on.

    No one mentioned impact on available accommodation in Clare due to refugee housing. Or if they did, it was not broadcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,180 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Quelle surprise. Look who turns up with yet another wall of verbiage that nobody reads.


    Well you’ve clearly read it, so the idea that nobody reads what I’ve written? Clearly that’s not true, not even speaking for yourself.

    You took a cheap pot-shot at them based entirely upon the fact that they are an OAP and you believe you as a high-flying contributor to the economy are in a position to do so, so to claim that it was irrelevant is also, clearly not true.

    I would hope you meant to say on the topic of arses, your attempted insult doesn’t make any sense otherwise. I could indeed refrain from excreting countless volumes of hot air from my ample behind, but while we’re not aiming at pensioners, children or Ukrainian refugees, it’s all good.



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    More nonsensical verbiage from a poster who can’t help himself from pontificating.

    I reiterate, when posters who are advocating for detrimental social policies, including an unfettered influx of ‘refugees’, Ukrainian or otherwise, they will be called out. That applies to OAPs and economically active buffoons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,180 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    You keep missing the point that whether they are OAPs, economically active buffoons, or indeed high flying sorts like yourself, that would surely have such an intellectual poster as yourself conclude that they have an equal right to express an opinion on social policy as you do.

    You’re not actually calling out anything, because this little exchange feels very much like deja vu when rather than explain what was detrimental about the policy, you took aim at the poster. It certainly explains why I, speaking only for myself, am having considerable difficulty with your attempt to portray yourself as losing out on anything, much less losing out on anything to the people whom you appear to be at pains to point out are beneath you, while bemoaning the the advocacy of detrimental social policies.

    Were there to be any threat of your actually being taken seriously, then I might even express some actual concern about how your ideas would be detrimental to Irish society as a whole. For now I’ll stick to mocking your ideas mercilessly as you try to portray yourself as a victim of people who are no threat to your welfare whatsoever, nor the welfare of those people you care about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,497 ✭✭✭✭Strumms




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