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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Let me summarise, then.

    The people you describe so callously as "economic migrants" come from a place where a total of 5,401 have been killed (2,081 men, 1,420 women, 147 girls, and 169 boys, as well as 39 children and 1,545 adults whose sex is yet unknown), between February and last week. Another 7,400 have been injured.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Have you not been paying attention to the mess that has been getting progressively worse for the last 10 or so years?

    The average house price nationwide is now €320,000.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Barbosa92


    I don’t doubt there are certain regions in the vast expanse that is Ukraine that are too dangerous for civilians to live in. There is also a massive area of Ukraine where these citizens could move to that are many hundreds of kilometres in distance from any danger.

    Ireland has also had to remove visa free travel from Ukranians travelling here from safe countries. Can you explain to me why they would need to do this? They have also had to introduce measures in hotels that if you are not resident in the hotel you have been accommodated in for a 7 day period you lose the accommodation. Again why would they need to do this? It is due to the majority of Ukranians taking the absolute piss out of Irelands generosity and using the situation to milk it for every cent they can get.

    Our weak government would normally turn a blind eye to chancers like this like they do our own Irish social welfare scammers. The fact they have introduced those measures shows the abuse is widespread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Absolutely no concept of the reality that is happening here.

    So a junior software developer in Waterford for example, manages to get a mortgage for €140k, but must move up to Donegal, quit his job and work for Abbotts, to make it worthwhile?

    Are Abbotts willing to match these salaries for unskilled labourers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,498 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    That’s the ‘logic’ you are dealing with unfortunately.



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  • Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What a waste of money all that cash going to hotel's private landlords and welfare payments.

    That's money down the drain, nothing to show for it.

    Not a single home built from it and there badly needed. Millions being spent and not a single end product.

    I can see now how the HSE is what it is

    Can you imagine where water charges will lead us!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    Really? How much would that guy be taking home after paying extortionate rent, fuel, transport and other expenses to basically just survive in the current climate.

    What if he's not qualified to work for Abbott's in NW Donegal, where house prices are '140k'. Unless he's living rent free in some undiscovered utopia he hasn't a hope of getting a mortgage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


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    Remember Irish People. While your grandmother is at home worrying about how she will heat her home this winter, Ukranian pensioners are heading off on vacations to Spain with your Tax money.

    You're being scammed in your own country, your kids are being **** on in schools and crippling rises in the cost of living are going to really hurt pensioners living alone this winter.

    These people are laughing at you. They are waiting for their free homes in Ireland whilst they buy their own houses in UA using YOUR money. Yes your government has f00ked up badly and they're doubling down on this now. Expect numbers to double by 2023 and let's see the flag waving NPCs get theirs then, the emotional trainwrecks putting these scum ahead of our own people.



  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    that should be forwarded to MM, Leo, Helen McEntee and every TD in this country (with a proper link so its not dismissed as fabricated) ... an answer should be demanded.

    The DPD and Amazon couriers are now making daily deliveries to my place of work for the Ukrainians who are working here and have put it down as their delivery address. Deliveries every day, even the courier is making jokes about it at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    The collleges in donegal are talking about putting students in caravans now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭jackboy


    what most don’t realise is that the vast majority of these Abbot jobs will be unskilled low paid jobs. That is great as lots of these are badly needed. But these workers won’t go beyond scratching out a living unless they have a partner in a well paid job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    You "don't doubt" but then go on to doubt.

    Why might you come here from a third country? Because in a war with emergency evacuations, you get separated from your family and want to reunite with them?

    Why would you not stay 24/7 in the hotel to which you've been allocated? Because you've come from a warzone where you and/or your loved ones have all lost family and friends, you and they are traumatised, and you want to be with friends and family so you can comfort one another.

    Not everyone is an evil scammer out to get you, Barbosa. Empathy. Try having some.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Why would she have to quit her job as a software developer (or accounts clerk, or salesperson, or customer support rep, or...) ? It's the 21st century.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    It's terrible, isn't it, Abbotts coming up with all of those jobs. Next, the Welfare might be asking me why I'm still scratching my hole on the dole instead of taking them up! The effort of filling in forms showing I'd be worse off!

    Somebody should really set up a petition telling Abbot not to bother, really!

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  • Posts: 261 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Of course they are...In the immediate vincinity of Letterkenny IT, they have handed over accommodation to house 473 refugees alone, in the last year. That's not counting other accommodation that was also handed over to house refugees.

    This country is going down the Swanee at a neck breaking pace. You would think a First World Country would not want to reverse its position.

    This government are absolutely hanging us out to dry. It's just disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Last time I was on the dole, I still managed to get away for a holiday. It's actually allowed. I'm aware of Irish people on the dole/disability who still make it to Lanzarote more than once a year! Imagine!

    And they've not had to flee across Europe after losing friends, family or homes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Sums up the “refugee” scam for what it is. End this welfare tourism farce immediately and ship the lot of these freeloaders back to where they came from.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My car is a D Reg. I don’t live anywhere near Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Barbosa92


    Where exactly did I go on to doubt?

    Nice article there for you to read about one of the reasons for all the civilian deaths in the Ukraine statistics you keep rehashing. Ukraine then tries to spin this as evil Russia targeting civilians.

    Love your sweet little theory of people leaving their accommodation to be reunited with loved ones. The reality is these people are off on hols around Europe, crashing with friends somewhere else in Ireland or back in Ukraine. In all cases they should relinquish the accommodation but want to keep just in case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Meanwhile the “refugees” are put up in lavish hotels with all square meals provided. Some fcukin country



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Barbosa92


    I would love to see the travel statistics for Ukrainians in Ireland. Countries travelled to/from in the last few months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone


    I agree if anything the students should be given these hotels and the refugees can stay in the caravans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Of course- their parents have contributed to the state via taxes. These freeloaders on the other hand are hopping around europe for the biggest soft touch to exploit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Plenty back and forth like yo-yos to the “devastated war zone”. Even hotel owners admit that as the “refugees” demand hotel rooms be kept for them on return to treasure island



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I live in the real world, where people still save up, live within their means and buy a house. Not everyone expects da gubberment to provide a home for them.

    I just did a quick count of the young people under 40 years old in my circle. In the past 10 years, 12 of them either built or bought their own homes. I doubt that any of them paid anything near €320,000. Probably due to most living in country towns or in the country itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    “I live in the real world…”lol. You REALLY do not

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  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought the refugees were put up in student accommodation? Not quiet the same thing as a lavish hotel!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,072 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Are you deliberately being obtuse? As well as eye wateringly expensive hotels they’re ALSO hogging student accommodation, selfishly pushing students aside. It’s what happens unfortunately when you have a government that puts the needs of every do gooder and virtue signaller way above the needs of the native taxpayers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Its allowed but do we really want to be paying 10s of thousands of refugees who just arrived in the Country while they take holidays? Also when they are away their accommodation is not availalbe for others. You can't have your cake and eat it.


    I also disagree with them getting the full rate. That's costing the taxpayer billions between accommodation and income supports. The govt is frittering away taxpayers money. Money we need for healthcare...school places....housing.


    I don't agree wiith refugees being able to take holidays and get paid for it especially in the first year or two.

    If they are working and not claiming income supports thats different.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    You're destined to be permanently outraged then as governments of pretty much every option in the Dail will do all of these very same things. That's European democracy for you.



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