Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Homelessness can involve a very complex range of issues including substance abuse and mental illness. In reality it splits into two groups, those on housing lists and those who might avail of facilities.

A summary here on how things are going including thousands of people waiting to be vetted.

I think you have a thesis that does not involve An Post making any commercial decisions themselves. Even in that Committee meeting story it is about encouraging government actions not blaming them. The range of services provided from what I can see seems to be the best option.

And in hundreds more articles, the closures are laying the blame firmly at the governments door.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20015472.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/an-post-urges-tds-to-use-local-post-offices-or-risk-further-closures-41154818.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2018/0918/994624-politics-post-offices/

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/2018-09-19/11/

But at the time, Denis Naughten blames the public for shopping in Lidl and Aldi 🙄

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/people-going-to-aldi-and-lidl-to-blame-for-post-office-closures-minister-1.3617853

All of this aside, things are likely going to get a lot worse and an even bigger mess made if they close down many more with the Refugees now seemingly relying on them for their free money. Which is really the topic in hand.

I was going to suggest yesterday that we should all pack in our jobs for a couple of weeks, CPO some land and between us all build a massive Ukrainian town for them, then go back to work.

It would probably take less out of the economy.

And hotels mysterously changing ownership the week before 12 million euro contracts are handed out?

Where's the primetime investigation or any media articles on who owns what and how long and who approved the contracts?

This is an extremely lucratice industry with cast iron contracts backed by the state and you the taxpayer. All for a good cause and an emergenc so why would you ask too many qs? (sound familiar to anybody...).

I wonder what is the background of the new owners for some of these former NAMA properties. Are they like the local Printer who got the PPE contract for the Guards?

When you ask too many Qs they roll out the Mary the pensioner from Dunloe to say where is your conscience you bad underpaid overworked overtaxed citizen you.....

Most people won't host the refugees for more than six months or a year surely.

I see this home hosting as being a drop in the bucket, a few thousand people I guess at most.

Taken from the article about Lisdoonvarna.

Everything will change when the pensioners can't get access to healthcare won't it Mary.

''The primary care centre in nearby Ballyvaughan is under similar strain. A doctor there who wished to remain anonymous said they are 'ready and happy to help, but the pure volume of extra patients is proving a little difficult to manage nowadays - for the receptionist, the nurses, not only the doctors.

'We're actually trying to get in touch with a HSE liaison person now to see what we could put in place because I don't think we'll be able to manage long-term, and our own patients who have been in the practice for years and year s are certainly feeling the impact of it too when all of a sudden they can't get an appointment and they have to wait, which wouldn't normally be the case in a rural practice.'''

I agree, things like this stink to high heaven.

There will never be an investigation into these shady hotel deals and deals.

The City West was sold for 38m in 2020 and almost immediately rented to the government for 1 year for 38m. Basically a free hotel for someone. And now after 2 years of Covid contracts in on better migrant contract.

36 million on a facility that was hardly used. 300 people stayed there. This how the state spends our money.

However the majority ownership seems to have been acquired in Feb 2018, so well before covid.

https://fora.ie/tetrarch-capital-citywest-owner-3872510-Feb2018/

She should have just applied for jobs closer to home. Here is how it is… I live in Dublin..so I don’t apply for jobs hundreds of kilometres away, then demand that taxpayers provide housing, free gratis effectively wherever my successful application is. I wonder what hokey she told the interviewer.

this is one of the problems, we KNEW that many of the people coming here from the Ukraine it was for ‘opportunities’ as much as it was ‘protection’..

785 is price per square metre Suckit.

It's no harm thinking through what you are posting before you press "post comment".

And regardless, the ad that you refer to asks for a 50% downpayment before construction. It has a link to a video showing you the development. The video is 8 years old

If you look on donedeal you will see people selling cars etc listed with prices of 1 Euro or 1234 Euro. I hope you don't waste time going to see such items, thinking the price is 1 Euro

First ad is weird. 5bed on 14sqm??:) Whoever put this ad together for this ancient tiny studio must have been out of it:)

Looks like someone bought student accomodation and is now selling rooms individually as flats.Smart:)