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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Couldn’t agree more. Let them grow on until October/November and let them off in the mart if you don’t want to winter them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    It's a long exspencive road feeding anything much under 500kg..what ever about small chubby AA heifers but continentals would break you feeding them at low weights



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Still they’re all over 24 months. Summer calves are the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Some continental cattle are better left till 36 months. It won't make any difference to the feed lots



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,661 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Remember that earlier on Glanbia (I think) were going to penalise for excess production during the main grass growing months. A number of farmers culled numbers so that they wouldn't go over their peak milk production - since then Glanbia did a massive U turn and scrapped the idea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    3 quick questions for ye

    • Just wondering what effect having cattle just a day or two after being TB tested has on the price in the mart?
    • As they come to 30 days after the TB test does this effect the price too?
    • I noticed some of the mart deductions, IFA being one but what is this EU-Fund that they take money for?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    No point in trying to sell in the mart. They are too slow growing. I would put them on 2kgs and feed away and slaughter as they come fit. They will not make huge money but still a 280kg AA grading O+ at a base of 4.6 will come into 1350 euro

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭memorystick


    They came in at €520 each last October. No meal during winter. Going to feed for a few months and see how it goes. They’re mostly FR and about 6 AA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I feed the AA. I have a few Fr like that myself May/June'20 born bought last October 330 kgs costing 480 euro. My instinct is to over winter and finish next May or June. They will struggle with weight or grade at any stage this autumn. They will also eat 500 kgs of ration.they will kill@400 kgs+ next summer

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Cattle in the first scenario will most likely have an 30 day export cert and therefore be eligible for immediate export which may be a bonus depending on the clientele interested in them. However most marts that export cattle will offer a testing service for cattle without a current export cert so the difference may be negible between those with or without certs. The cost of testing will only be a few euros per head extra compared to an animal with a valid cert so it's not going to make much of a saving by only buying stock with certs.

    Cattle in the second scenario are different in that there export cert is about to expire. This can be problematic if the cert expires between the date of purchase and the date of export. Those cattle aren't then eligible for export and they can't be retested for another 30 days. As a side note cattle coming out of a dealing herd or having been transferred in the previous 30 day's aren't eligible for export for another 30 days to the best of my knowledge. All of these factors only make a difference if there's export buyers interested in them and will be of no significance to anyone buying to keep them in the Republic.

    Someone more knowledge than me may be able to enlighten you on the various mart deductions as it's not something I'm that well versed in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭epfff


    Short answer.

    Date of tb test rarely matters to buyers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Jim_11


    What’s the minimum weight that it’d be worth the return for feeding aa bullocks or heifers?

    And is it worth keeping them over the winter and finish next year if there 550-600kg?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Friend of mine rang an agent this morning, 4.80 Bullocks and will take tomorrow morning if he wants, so no problems getting them away it seems



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Is there a bit of a price lift coming I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The gap between O/P cows and P+ grade QA bullocks is only 20c/ kg at present

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭morphy87


    And what would that indicate? A possible increase in price?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,787 ✭✭✭893bet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    When the gap between cows and prime beef is very small it indicates a strong demand. Having said that watching Listowel today finished cattle were making 1-200 less than factory price however there might not have being enough furnished cattle there to fight over.

    A lot of Friesian cows still being killed straight from the mart. There has being no flush of grass this year. Cattle are killing lighter than last year in my case anyway. Present price may be hiding that

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Seemed to be good value in your type of cattle in Castleisland yesterday, Bass. 1.5 to 1.6/kg was catching a good share of them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Ive most of my cattle going next week....in all my time at this game, beef price only goes one way from here until the end of the year (although last year it just stayed the same)....therell be the usual pile of grass finishers from september onwards....

    I guess itll hold at 4.80 for a good while...id be shocked to see it increase again in the next few months....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Cannot really buy at present. I am above the nitrates limit. I have nearly 30 replacements bought and I am struggling for grass. I have put them out on a bit of fen/ marshy ground that is common between three of us. I am the only lads that ever puts cattle on it. It's a pain making sure it's secure.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Angus bullocks should be ready at 24 months. Heifers 23 months maybe even less.

    Age is the factor when feeding meal. Around 7 or 8 weeks before they are ready for the factory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Some Angus bullocks, depend on their mother.


    Then add turnout date and willingness to horse ration in to them.


    There is so much variety in Pollys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is a minimum weight in factories of 240kgs got bullocks and 220 for heifers. If 1-2 fall below they will not penalise you. However if you have 20-30%of the stock below this weight the processers will dock you

    There is a lot off AA and some Hereford bullocks doing about or sub 500grams liveweight per day from birth. As two year olds they still will not be 500kg LW.

    No two animals are the same. I have a rig that is fairly bare at present I have him pulled out with for LM bullocks and they are getting 6 kgs per day on grass. The LM are 6-8weeks from slaughter

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I see your rig and I raise you one! I’ve 2 calves here and I know to look at them, they will be close to pension age before they’ll be fit. I bought 30 at the mart and in fairness these are the only 2 I’ve copped so far.

    Very hard to pick out any at the mart that look like runts. But these 2 are from the same farmer so I’ll be watching out for his next Spring.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The problem with my rigs is that they will not flesh up. They were badly squeezed and still have a rod. If I can get them into FS2+ I will get the QA on them.

    Hung four yesterday. 3 O- and a P three of them hitting 30 months. Averaged 1530. Cattle are hanging 7-10 kgs less than last year. I had at least 5 more cattle hung this time last year. No flush of grass at all to drive cattle on. 2nd cut silage ground will be coming into the rotation in 7-10 days time.

    Everything being fed at the moment some on 2 kg most on 3 kgs

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Grass this year was either too strong or not enough of it. The latter at the minute. Have continental’s on 6kg a day also. They’d eat more but would involve feeding them twice a day never mind the cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I bought a rig in a bunch of bullocks a few years back. Good proper British fr. He doubled his purchase price in 6 months. Loved his grub. Very wary of him near the end though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,323 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Rigs always get messy from late July on. Friesian are the worst I always bring them outside the paddock to feed and that way it's easier to move them

    Slava Ukrainii



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