Beef price tracker 2

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119478734#Comment_119478734

So going by your figure av. k/o 317kg .Liveweight roughly 635 kg .What weight did they average coming in

memorystick

A very mixed bag of between 400 and 480 kgs. I’ve no purchase sheets as I buy them in a yard. They were very rough when they came in. They had good silage all winter and out on March 20. The Mo are the worst to thrive actually. Good Fr are the best. I started feeding the lightest 20 this week.

Bass Reeves

I have 25 gone. The cheque came to 51 euro short of 40k.. Average buy in cost was 650 euro.I actually added it from a spreadsheet and was shocked it was such an even number. I lost a 450 euro HE bullock in the crush 10 days ago. I gave him one of those vitamin doses and he literarily went toes up in 30 minutes. Must have had a serious lung issue. Never saw it happen before.

I have 30+ to go yet. No colored cattle gone yet. Overall buying in cost was 640, if the coloured cattle keep the average up I be ok

morphy87

€5.05 flat Hereford Bullocks with some gone over the 30 months

StevenToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483129#Comment_119483129

Thats an incredible price....what grades are they?...they must be Rs

mr.stonewall

Taking a base of 4.85 add on QA 20c, hereford bonus 15c and take off 12c for an o+ brings you to €5.08/kg. And that's for the u30 months cattle.

Factor in say 25% being over age and flat pricing being given at this time of year, just shows how tight they are for kgs of beef.

The HE's are more likely working of a base of €4.95

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483201#Comment_119483201

Haven’t seen them but they are out of fresians,I presume they are a mixture of r s and O+

but with the base at 4.80 to 4.85 +your 20 cents quality assurance for underage plus the Hereford bonuses it’s not too far out, now he has 20 to go

StevenToast

Its funny how being 30 months doesnt matter when theyre stuck for flesh.....

Soul destroying getting stung for that....

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483237#Comment_119483237

He also has Hereford heifers and was offered €5.10 flat for them

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483725#Comment_119483725

Castration doesn't even matter bulls get squeezed to bullocks on the kill sheet and I would Suspect that more steak goes out from poly heifers than walks in.

The factories are flexible on rules when it suits.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484359#Comment_119484359

If they were under 30 months it not necessarily a great price

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119485079#Comment_119485079

There would be a few over 30 months

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119485307#Comment_119485307

There would want to be 20-30% of them before they would begin to make a serious impact. There is 30c in QA and breed bonus under 30 months. Sometime if you only have one you can negotiate him negotiate as well. Most HE would grade O+. Taking everything into account he getting the equivalent of 4.8-4.9 of a base which is more or lees where it is at present.

For what seems is a double of well finished cattle it's not 10c/kg above the normal base

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119485544#Comment_119485544

That would be around right, what are the current bonuses for breeds? Is it still 10 cents for Hereford and 20 for angus?

if a lad had a double to go should he be expecting to get 10 cents more than the quoted price? I know a lot depends on demand

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119485822#Comment_119485822

I know a lad killing 300 cattle and i would get same price most of the year for my

Good loser

15c currently is the AA bonus. I think.

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487589#Comment_119487589

20c in abp at the moment

StevenToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487677#Comment_119487677

I only got 10c breed bonus for AAX and HEX from larry??

cute geoge

Does the breed bonus only apply up to 30 months

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119488699#Comment_119488699

Generally yes. However sometimes some processors will pay beyond that especially for AA.

But the bonus varies as well. Previously there was two rates. 10c/ kg if you were a finisher who slaughtered less than 50/ year AA's. If you were slaughtering you own AA stock that you bred or of you had over 50 you got another 10c/ kg. There was extra bonuses for out of season ( November and late April to mid June) bonuses as well. November is now gone.

The bonus for HE cattle is usually only paid to smaller suppliers. Larger supplier who have mixed loads and are getting a bit more on the base are not getting the HE bonus.

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119488734#Comment_119488734

Sounds very much like the factories can pay they want when they want.

As Ross O’Carroll-Kelly might say, “But, yeah, no, it’s seriously like not a cartel dude.”

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119488540#Comment_119488540

I got 30c for aa's in June and 20c for he's...on 20c for next week for aa's

StevenToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119490869#Comment_119490869

Thanks for making me feel more disgusted....I always feel like im getting fleeced taking my cattle into Larry....

But i need him more than he needs me....zero bargaining power...i was tempted to take a load to the mart...but I know thats a waste of time....

mr.stonewall

Got 20c in the last fortnight on aa's. The cartel are hungry for them at the mo

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119491264#Comment_119491264

I cannot believe how poor the thrive has been for August. The dry weather finally caught up with me. Thrive was poor enough all year there was no flush of grass this year. However the last three weeks has actually see grass disappear.

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119491460#Comment_119491460

Heavy ground here and not over or understocked. Kept tipping away with grass, but no real flush of growth a few days of getting close cutting it fine. The saving grace was the heavy Dews in the morning. Only real benefit was that grass DM was high, meaning every bite was worth nearly worth 2 compared to last August, or 5 bites in a bad year ( the beast with 5 mouths in wet weather) Cattle here have done a serious thrive in the past 3 weeks, calves, yearlings and the last of the finishing group.

The extra stock killed early this year, drought and folks finishing grass cattle feeding less meal has caught up. It would be interesting to see the total KG of beef produced this year compared to others.

Cavanjack

Had bulls in at the wknd for a dose and weigh. Very happy with how they have done this year. No real burst of grass all year but always had grass in front of them.

ruwithme

Other flick of it re lack of grass, is traditionally grass would be getting wet from early August on with shorter days & usually heavy rains in the month.

After grass especially running through stock. Not yet anyhow.

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119488734#Comment_119488734

I’d say it’s more location or factory specific rather than farmer size.

Around the midlands you’ll get 20cent on Angus and 10 cent on hex no matter if you’re killing 1 or 1,001 in a year.

Lads should be putting pressure on your agents to make sure and get it for you no matter where in the country you are. And if you’re not happy with what your agent is getting for you try a different agent or different factory for a turn and see if you fare any better.

Being too loyal can do you more harm than good.

Siamsa Sessions

My father had horses here years ago. Thorough bred mares, half breds, even the odd pony bought at Tallow horse fair. It was an interest and never about the money. He’d sell the odd good foal or yearling at Goffs but never massive money. Enough to cover the stud fee and a few bags of oats maybe.

The horses were an excuse to travel the country, meet all sorts of characters, and have a few pints.

I don’t think any farmer could ever get into horses for the money. That’s not how it works. Unless you’re a privileged rich girl who was never exposed to the harsh realities of wondering how to pay the bills on your own.

Maybe we’ll be told next that the real niche is organic horse meat, exported to Germany?