Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Secondly, read a newspaper. Other EU countries are stopping paying them welfare payments

Which countries?

Poland have phased out an extra payment they implemented immediately to hosts, but the payment is still available for a ream of circumstances, you know the payment we have promised and still haven't delivered?

From July 2022, Poland will abolish compensation payments to persons who have sheltered refugees from Ukraine.

The EU directive allows Ukranian refugees to work in the EU, therefore they are also entitled to social welfare, so again which EU countries has stopped this entitlement?

In your own good time.

don’t be so disingenuous, they can leave the country, I never said they couldn’t… but they have a ‘contract’ signed to work in Irish healthcare for X years..

Errr contracts are common in working life…so yes, I’m seriously advocating it, they can of course leave but if they did within 2 or 3 years say, they would be liable to reimburse the state and taxpayers… for their training. Why should a taxpayer foot the huge costs of medical training, a six figure number and then the person taxes said skills and says byeee and off go to the US, or wherever…

the friend of mine who is a doctor in upstate New York now… but on gaining her medical degree she worked Temple Street for about 4 years…met an American lad here, got engaged and now married with kids.

Don’t want to stay here, always fancied living in Dubai ? Great ! Put in time here, working and helping the people, taxpayers who contribute to your degree, then off you go…. They should have a responsibility to put in the time, skills and work back to the people who enabled the financing of their degree.

ukrainian doctors and healthcare workers flee when a war is on just takes the fûckin biscuit… shows what many are after.

Is your 10 year old only starting school now!

This is my final post on this insanity.

I went to our local village in West Cork, it's well known as the local hotel held weddings for years, another old hotel was sold earlier in the summer & it was being done up. This morning stood outside were a group of men & I asked the owner of the shop I was in what was the story there. They have filled this hotel with Ukrainians, he told me.

Madness. How long they're staying, no one knows, what they're going to do all day I don't know.

I suppose when the money runs out, our muppet politicians might have to come up with a plan.

As an aside, for the first time in nearly fourty years, my wife couldn't get to see our GP today, completely full. I wonder why.

I think you are waffling now. Its well known there arent enough GPs to service the growing population as is.

The fact is the huge influx of refugees is putting an added strain on already stretched public services. Those services quality are being downgraded or access has become impossible in some cases.

Accommodation, healthcare, education, lesiure facilities.

Not all of this is on refugees by any means. The problem is the large and rapid influx is making a bad situation worse.

If she is "home" then I presume she attended some schooling here and might have been aware that schools teach Irish. I don't know how a person could think they teach here if they don't know basics of something that they will have to teach. Seems very shortsighted not to have studied it if she wanted to be a teacher.

Posters appear to have no memory of the Irish medical students who had to escape from Ukraine at the start of the invasion? The black girl from Carlow was one. Apparently it seems that evil Irish were going over to Ukraine to get qualified as doctors and then leave Ukraine to work elsewhere!

Same poster has mentioned on other threads that they have only just returned from being abroad and also mentions that their friends who stayed here didn't save as much as them. That's likely why their 10 year old is only now looking for a school in the "district"

Perhaps one reason those friends didn't save as much was that they were contributing to the system here? Rather than going off for years and parachuting back in when it suits to have a State that will provide certain things for free.

The irony of complaining about Ukrainians when they fecked off for years. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Don't get me wrong. But it seems a little hypocritical to be landing back in and giving out about the Ukrainians while demanding immediate services after being off paying their taxes to somewhere else

Well it also says a lot about people who, at a time when their country has to cope with a huge influx of people, spend their time attacking it and trying to undermine it for providing that aid.

Being a little more understanding and accepting of an obligation to house a few people is a lot less of a sacrifice than staying somewhere with bombs falling on your family or murdering rapists a few miles over. But we apparently have plenty who don't even want to do their tiny bit for our country on that front.

Ireland has to accommodate those people.

There is already 8 million displaced, the countries resources are finite even more acutely when they are fighting off Soviet aggression and their country has been decimated economically and socially.

But I'm sure you would have no problem living in a field with your 10 year old playing the missile lottery.

Next level internet warrior.

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Free everything, really? Like Prams?

They are entitled to work which 1000s are, if you are entitled to work you are entitled to welfare.

Go declare yourself homeless, you too can live the high life. Let us know how you get on. 👍️