Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Weren't people doing similar about 10-15 years ago when they were getting the dole into their bank account? Just coming back once a month to sign on. The Ukrainians probably don't have to sign on anywhere, could easily get somebody to collect their money for them, or could possibly even let it overlap a few times - no idea how many before they would get checked, but even if they collected it every 2nd week, that's a short flight. It may be handy to stay here a few weeks in a row every now and then. Nothing keeping them here.

With some of the stories you have come out with, I am surprised that you find that possibility so far fetched.

The ash cloud thing years ago caught some poor crayturs out. They have a facial recognition thing in the post offices now so you need someone not on welfare to collect for you or they'll get snagged. Better not to tell Maryanne people go to Spain n Portugal on cigarette runs never mind to collect the dole - she'd never believe it!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ash-cloud-crisis-exposes-welfare-tourists-26664210.html

Did I say that ? I simply stated a fact which is true . You said their rooms would not be held and I said some wouldn’t have that rule Nothing more. I never once mentioned Portugal , I quite simply corrected your information

Amazing how you put words in my mouth . But I am not at all surprised because you seem to enjoy twisting my words

I have actually explained to my guests that if that want to go at any stage to see their parents that they are absolutely not to be afraid their rooms are gone . The mom needs to see her very sick dad and could arrange for him to be in Moldava . I am hoping we can help her do that . You will probably twist that now so you can berate me some more

You dont seem to understand that some of us can be very supportive of those in genuine need and yet see clearly how its open to abuse

OK for the purposes of clarity only.

I think to be fair (But I get the points being raised) the Ash Cloud and what occurred was a different time.

It is highly unlikely any Ukranian refugees are paid SWA into Bank accounts, actually they are not. These payments can only be signed for at nominated P/O weekly . Childrens allowance is a separate matter and can be paid through bank account.

THE DSP did facilitate Jobseekers payments into bank accounts during pandemic for obvious reasons but they've returned or in the process of returning Jobseekers payment to P/O collection only and any new claims from March 2022 unless exceptional circumstances and on a case by case basis are strictly paid into P/O and must be signed for.

SWA, which I believe Ukrainian refugees receive is paid into Post Offices, there is no discretion. Money must be collected on the day assigned or no later than a day or two after that date.

This said, it is, quite easy to fly out after collection day and return in time for next collection day.

But this is the most important bit.

Those on Jobseekers or SWA payments must seek permission to leave the state including irish citizens and are only allowed at Total of 14 days Holiday annually. They absolutely can not be flying out or leaving the country willy nilly.

Finally so there's no confusion, Disibility, Pension, illness, another range of benefit payments can be paid into bank accounts weekly.

what is the rule re: arrears or unclaimed payments for Ukrainian people ?

if a Ukrainian person spent a day a month here…. Including airfare, maybe food, 90 euros a trip ? Free bus to wherever.. so. Could collect a big wad of social welfare. For a bit of inconvenience but moderate expenditure to get it.

Hi there, there would be no arrears , payment would be suspended in a normal situation. For example if Joe Blogs didn't collect their payment it would be suspended within 2 days, no further payments made and likely closed if explanation not forthcoming. Joe Bloggs can not leave the state and be in receipt of a jobseekers or SWA payment without permission and only for 14 days in a whole calendar year.

I'm not quite sure about this one day residency rule in a defined period, is this being confused about the weekly accommodation absence check 🤔 but if its the case Any refugee in receipt of SWA or jobseekers payment is permitted to leave for weeks on end , it flys in the face of normal rules and I don't believe this is possible or happening, if it is, it's an absolute disgrace .

Can this be verified anyone 🤔

It is absolutely not the case SWA recipients can leave the state for extended periods , there is one exception, leave can be granted to search for work in another EU country but only under strict rules and a limited period

I'd say they've gotten some negative feedback somewhere as it's gone dead quiet since they started shacking them up in tents.

They'll just try keep it on the quiet now, Start planning on building extra houses & giving them percentages of new builds or whatever houses are available and hope nobody notices that much and by that time sure it's too late to challenge them and anybody that does will be a dirty racist.

Can't be uprooting people once they have their forever home.

They might end up taking a bit of flack for putting these people before their own but as time goes on people will realise they couldn't give a **** about them and no matter the concerns they won't backtrack so what's the point in fighting them? it'll all fizzle out and then we'll vote them in again.

Ireland Baaaaaby!!!

Are you quite alright, are you stalking, what is wrong with you .

Love 🙄 WTF is that, grow up , last time I was called love was on moore Street 30 years ago.

Try this nonsense again and I'll being it further , we've had quite enough of this shyte on this thread . And don't quote me directly if trolling .

No I didn’t because we all know that there are chancers in every single country we have our own chacers too as I am sure you know

But dont let it get in the way of your berating others without knowing at all what they are actually about