Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Good man /Women Donald , I linked to an article that clearly doesn't suit your semantics and narrative . You've conveniently missed the bit we're I commended Tulsa , Nasty comment, seriously, get a hold of yourself, is their no end to your attempts to twist and turn what is being said on this thread.

I wondered will you be picking up the latestest edition of Vogue Magazine, beautiful, staged photos of the Zelenskyy golden couple whilst their citizens fleeing 🙄

Happy to supply the Vulgar and crass Photos to you if you missed the latest edition, check out Twiiter for the reactions 🙄

Honestly, I've never said all Ukrainian refugees are not Genuine, maybe it's been hinted at or said by a small minority. What gets me is the one or two who are completely blinded to reality who rather than engage, deflect .

The real problem is that we just don't know.

Yes there's been some extraordinary shenanigans at play but the majority are Genuine. I apportion blame squarely at the Government’s door and to a lesser extent NGO'S for this shambles which is about to get much worse if that is even possible.

Reasonable supports were Justified but my word the country is being bled dry whilst Zelenskyy can find the time do do photo shoots for Vogue Magazine.

You misunderstand , I did not suggest you did , I've made a general observation about that people believe that All Ukrainian refugees are not Genuine on this thread, I've not seen that on this thread , a few comments hinting at it but it's not the majority view.

It's beyond extraordinary, Vulgar, Crass completely inappropriate, they've clearly not a clue about optics , astonishing bad taste and they feature in "An Exclusive ' on Piers Morgan tonight , thankfully I don't watch that shyte.

I wonder what our Government will make of this latest self publicity stunt 🙄

You asked why do refugees travel to other countries and not just the closest one to theirs. One of the reasons given was because they may have family ties in another country. It was not suggested that all the 40k Ukrainian refugees that came to Ireland have family ties here, but some of them would. Some of them would be looking for an English speaking country so that they would be more likely to be able to integrate, for example. Some of them were brought here to share out the number between the European countries too.

If you want to put ourselves in the shoes of the Ukrainians that have fled, you don't have to look too far into our history to see a similar disaster here. The famine made many flee this country. We didn't just flee to our nearest neighbors the UK or France. We ended up in the USA and even further afield. There are many countries closer than that.

Yes, as a European country we have a shared responsibility to this problem. Countries like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and Germany have taken in a disproportionate amount. Have some countries dragged their feet with the number of refugees that they have taken in? Yes. Should we try and beat their score and take in less than them? No. We should keep telling our politicians to put pressure on them to do their share.

Excellent post, I do differ a little being honest, Zelenskyy "Was" the man of the hour, I think star is fading somewhat and I dont believe he read the room re this appalling Vogue Shoot , both are being castigated on SM about it, the Optics dreadful. Later an exclusive on the vile Piers Morgan show.

I also fear he's turning dictatorial, dismissing former allies, one his partner in the Pandaro Papers Shenanigans.

Virtue signalling and slick marketing has its limits IMO. Resolutions needed and urgently, That Pig Putin going nowhere, a sad reality but true.

Yep. I'm gonna be laughing pretty hard at all the students when it occurs to them that their activism might have a price for them to pay.

For the longest time I've said that if you want any action to be taken on the broken asylum and social systems that the great and the good support, but ignore the systemic problems with, go turn the Intercontinantal Hotel in Ballsbridge into a refugee asylum center, Herbert Park into a halting site and string a few homless shelters and methadone clinics along Shrewsbury Road and see how fast problems get sorted.

There's no chance of that happening of course, the application for an asylum center didn't last long in Ballbridge, which is apparently a far 'less suitable location' for one then a one horse town with no infrastructure in Ballygobackwards....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ballsbridge-centre-for-asylum-seekers-is-closed-1.299420

I think he'll be gone before this is over if I'm being honest 😉

I understand the desire to keep himself and the country on the news, but the Vogue?? really? is that his way of keeping the world's attention? what's next - page 3 and participation in Love Island? Is that where the international funding is going to - to pay Annie Lebovits's fee for a set of stylish photos?

I initially attributesdZelensky's various faux pas to his lack of experience in administrative field, the specifics of the time, but with things rolling on and on, I am starting to think he sees himself in the center of the current situation, rather than his country or his people.

Once a Clown, Always a Clown 🤡😉

I'd say you are right. He got up one morning and his PA was going through his calendar of things to do for the day. He then shouted at her (in Ukrainian, but I'll translate to English for here) "Scrap all of those apointments for today. We need to assemble a meeting of the Cabinet to come up with a plan to insult Ireland."

They spent days focusing on the task and eventually had to pull in some of their top Generals to try to come up with an idea. It was actually the head General who came up with the idea of an interview with a magazine. He said "Those Paddies hate reading interviews boss. If we can pull this off it'll really burn them good!"