Germany needs a bailout

Ouch Chinese Byrne · 27-07-2022 12:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119393785#Comment_119393785

Who was greedily taking the money from the banks in the first place?

Bit cynical · 27-07-2022 01:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119393793#Comment_119393793

Doesn't matter. If you are lending money, it is up to you to assess the quality of those you are lending to. The likes of Anglo lent to developers to build housing estates in areas that no one wanted and the loans defaulted. Anglo deserved to fail for that reason. Doesn't matter that those developers were idiots that could not run their businesses. Anglo failed because they made bad lending decisions. But likewise, those who lent to Anglo deserved to take a hit rather than the tax payer in Ireland.

fly_agaric · 27-07-2022 01:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119392873#Comment_119392873

You got booted off that Russia thread didn't you? Usually that is for making some kind of "both sides" comment about Ukraine invasion, as you've kind of done there (or more rarely, openly supporting Russia).

There are lots of such posters in this thread who have a great interest in telling us (in the EU) what's good for us...

(lift sanctions, stop supporting Ukraine, kowtow to Lord Putin so the Great Tsar doesn't doom you all to a winter of sitting at home in the cold with no job eating baked beans out of a can!).

Dyr · 27-07-2022 03:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119393240#Comment_119393240

LOL Lads desperate to equate wind with sources that are actually reliable and storable. Sure, If we just invest even more into Eamons pixie dust it will become viable.

Heres a quiz: whats a common metaphor for used to decsrible something that is not reliable? As changeable as the..... 😂

In the wind · 27-07-2022 03:37PM

Gazprom majority shareholder of Nordstream pipeline:

timmyntc · 27-07-2022 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394854#Comment_119394854

Hardly a surprise - they are the subject of massive amounts of sanctions

Padre_Pio · 27-07-2022 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394793#Comment_119394793

That's why we have a weather forecast.

You see the same talking to lads about ICE vs EV cars.

Some lads just love to burn stuff.

brokenangel · 27-07-2022 03:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394793#Comment_119394793

Our weather forecast are more or less spot on these days. Not just for tomorrow but for weeks in advance.

The only people I see talking about wind only is down to lack of knowledge on renewables.

A renewables grid is balanced across multiple sources. Every single piece of information you will find will say the same. Some will say about a backup like gas etc.

The big difference is having gas as a backup or having gas as the primary. Now I am 100% sure you will ignore this and continue with the "what happens when the wind doesn't blow" so please continue

MrMusician18 · 27-07-2022 04:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394968#Comment_119394968

That's not true and it's observably not true. Long range weather forecasting is completely unreliable beyond 7 days.

Even wind forecasting next day it far from perfect. The eirgrid wind forecast is routinely out by more than 20%. At the moment, (literally right now) wind is double what was forecast. Yesterday there were times when wind was 35% of forecast.

Dyr · 27-07-2022 04:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394968#Comment_119394968

Ignore that fact that you think wind is as predictable and storable a power source as gas and oil? I can't help but notice that you believe that.

What other pixe dust solutions do you have that will replace oil and gas and without relying on speculative fiction?

Danzy · 27-07-2022 04:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394854#Comment_119394854

With the head of the company an ex German Fsb/KGB agent with a 35 year very close friendship with

brokenangel · 27-07-2022 04:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395015#Comment_119395015

Not sure who you are using for weather but the companies the airlines are using etc are bang on. Not some free app on the web.

As I said the point of a grid is balanced, so multiple renewable but everyone always gets hung up with the "what happens when wind doesn't blow". With f**k all investment wind can still supply 36% of power.

Solar is available and finally we are building solar farms. PLus all the rest. We have a national herd, we should be using that.

I am sure the next post will be "what happens when the wind doesn't blow"

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395148#Comment_119395148

Do you think repeating "pixie dust" in each post is hilarious or something?

THe information is available on renewable grid. Have a look or not.

Padre_Pio · 27-07-2022 04:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395148#Comment_119395148

Is there one person who believes that wind is as predictable as gas? No. Stop with the strawman argument.

rob316 · 27-07-2022 05:10PM

They were warned by everyone including Trump don't increase your dependency on Russian energy, now the biggest economy in Europe faces coming to a grinding halt by winter. Germany should be charged an extortionate amount for gas if we have to cut back our usage.

rob316 · 27-07-2022 05:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119393063#Comment_119393063

Lets be honest Russia invaded a country with no allies, they aren't in Nato or the EU. Its a proxy war with the US, Ukraine is the missing piece of the puzzle to close in their defense perimeter around Russia.

Dyr · 27-07-2022 05:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395231#Comment_119395231

There seems to be, or at least that wind is in someway comparable to gas and oil when it comes to predictablity and storage 🤔

brokenangel · 27-07-2022 06:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395231#Comment_119395231

Exactly, nobody said that and as I mentioned gas can be used as a backup

Dyr · 27-07-2022 06:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395209#Comment_119395209

Right so your answer is wind and solar but pointing out that wind is unreliable is not allowed because its so achingly obvious that it doesnt count somehow

Solar power in.... Ireland, when there isnt a nation on this earth relying on solar as even nearly their mainstay for fuel.

And now we add cowfarts apparently, even though the Greens want most of them slaughtered.

Did I not specify solutions that don't require speculative fiction? Pixie dust is the most accurate way to describe this stuff including your "plus all the rest"

Just admit that none of this stuff can replace fossil fuels and still keep the lights on.

brokenangel · 27-07-2022 06:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395652#Comment_119395652

You posted the same stuff on the green agenda thread. Seems you are a little obsessed with fossil fuels.

Yes solar power in Ireland, you should talk to all the households around Ireland using it, you might learn something.

At least you managed to put "pixie dust" into the post. it would be terrible if you didn't add that in.

Leave you to it, as I said, my advice is do some research. You would be amazed

Padre_Pio · 27-07-2022 06:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395652#Comment_119395652

Wind is not unreliable. Wind is there when we need it, and we have alternatives when it's not.

Has there ever been an outage due to lack of wind? No, yet already at times, it powers half the country. The entire country if we have a windy night.

Solar is a small sector (5% now I think),buts it's growing especially in microgeneration. Solar installs have increased massively in the past few years, both in the number of installs and per kW.

In 10 years time you'll be laughed at for suggesting fossil fuels as the main source of electricity generation, and it'll be 10 years before any new fossil fuel plant will be online.

10 years ago you'd be laughed at for considering an air-to-water or a passive house. Put in an auld oil boiler or a fireplace.

MrMusician18 · 27-07-2022 06:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395209#Comment_119395209

I'm using the same data that eirgrid are using to manage the grid. The wind forecast is far from spot on.

The data is all freely available if you want to go look for it.

Anyway this is all beside the point. Even if you consider it technically feasible, renewables are not on the European grid in anywhere near the quantity necessary to replace gas this winter, or next winter.

brickster69 · 27-07-2022 07:24PM

FED raises rates to 2.5% and suggests further rate hikes are coming to target inflation.

Tonesjones · 27-07-2022 07:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395962#Comment_119395962

ECB miles behind. Euro currency in the toilet and a winter of energy crisis, possible food shortages and out of control inflation ahead.

Lagarde, Lane and Co have failed the citizens of Europe again with their procrastination, naivety, cowardice and disregard .

Donald Trump · 27-07-2022 07:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119389118#Comment_119389118

Coal is only really suitable for base load generation.

Different models for electricity generation and pricing exist across the world, and even differ from State to State in the US for example. One unusual aspect of electricity generation is that you can have negative prices under certain systems. For those, the generators may be paying to supply electricity to the grid. It is cheaper for them to pay to supply it rather than bring their generators offline and back online.

tom1ie · 27-07-2022 07:33PM

Why didn’t the energy minister realise that we have no gas storage In this country (LNG or CNG) and see that we are wide open to energy disruption for gas heating and electricity- seen as we generate approx 60% from gas or other fossil fuels.