Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

There was another fluff article in the examiner yesterday, Ukranian family having to leave their accommodation in 3 weeks etc.

But one paragraph stood out

"Although letters with deportation orders have started to be issued, actual deportations are still weeks away, the department said"

The department is Roderic O Gormanstowns department.

I wasn't aware this was happening or even being considered, No press releases on the Department Web site, just curious if anyone can shed some light 🤔

Article in the Examiner app, so can't share it.

We've been down this road before Donald. These draft dodgers are not welcome here and they are not genuine war refugees. Send them packing asap.

I'm hearing an echo, am I alone 🤔

18 hours of none stop bile and its me who needs a Hobby 😂

How sad does ones own life have to be that they would spend weeks trying to stir up hatred and get others to gang up on little kids and their mothers fleeing a warzone.

Read some interesting articles over the weekend, very insightful and from reputable sources.

Genuine horror stories but very, very telling that it appears the poorest, most vulnerable in Ukraine seemingly not worthy of assistance, Genuine refugees actually are to poor to leave Ukraine and actually stuck in real war Zone in very the far east of Ukrainian.

I got thinking about all these fabulous cars we see in Ireland, the ability of some of our Guests to fly back and fourth to Ukraine, those other Guests who arrived from exotic locations, Miami, New York etc and thought for a moment, something very very odd going on. These Guests, extraordinarily resourceful, adept at getting all the right info on supports etc.

NGO"s from what I can gather have actually done feck all to help Genuine Refugees, instead focus on virtue signalling on behalf of those who can afford to get here and of course those who are actually here. Seems its just not sexy to evacuate the poorest in Ukrainian society, of course this is nothing new in conflict, the elites always first out but I suspect without fear of contradiction many who've arrived here especially in rather expensive new cars could easily afford to head home, gosh even help the vulnerable in their own society 🤔

Just a simple intelligent observation mind you 😉

the pair of yous are a mess. just get a discord and finish your little spat there so the rest of can go back to moaning about all the things we never had that we're going to lose to these awful people running from the hell raining down from above.

Just over 40k here so far n government projections of 80k will be here by crimbo. It'll be grand- won't it?!! Is feidir linn!

If we're really lucky Michael d will write us a poem telling us to do more!

https://www.thesun.ie/news/9144524/dublin-hotel-prices-francis-brennan-tourists-visiting/

Came across this:

****Displaced Ukrainian students looking to continue their education in Ireland for the 2022-2023 academic year can now start the online application process for admission into higher education through the NSR helpdesk. The application process includes a facility for applicants to upload their academic documents and transcripts relating to their previous or current studies.

If these documents are not in English, the NSR Helpdesk will translate them free of charge.

Students will be asked to provide evidence of their English language competency, which is a requirement for admission into higher education institutions in Ireland. If students do not have evidence of a test, they can take an online Duolingo test that will be provided at no charge. This is the result of a sectoral partnership with Duolingo, who have provided 3,500 free tests to the Helpdesk to support the national response.**

How is this going to work?

In the current accommodation crisis for students, where are they going to put new Ukrainian students (Will they have preference when accommodation on campus is being distributed?) It was an utter nightmare for students to find accommodation last year (and has been so for the number of years, in fact), and now this is all again done without any clear plan.

Requirements are very vague. not sure what level of proficiency Duolingo tests provide; why not to use TOEFL and IELTS, as normally is done for those who have English as foreign language?

Judging by the sheer amount of Ukrainians that are currently in Ireland (and keep coming), there will be a significant amount of applicants, no doubt; will there be additional student places provided or will it be done again, like schools: no places for Irish kids, but miraculously places are given to Ukrainian children?

But surely deportation letters involves removal from the state, not accomodation 🤔 that would be eviction notices, the article seems all over the place I thought 🤔

In this case it is internal deportation. It is a most emotive term to use in this context. Ukrainians are only being given two refusals of accommodation, so they don't know yet where they will be offered/sent

"Elena’s parents are still in Kramatorsk. Her husband is currently in a city in the west of the country but will not leave in case he is called back to fight for Kramatorsk. Due to medical issues, he does not have to fight and could leave Ukraine but he refused to leave and signed up with the reserve forces instead"

That's what you call a real man. Not like the mooching scrotes we are getting. Fair **** play to him.

I'd honestly never heard of such a thing, internal deportation 😉

While you are waiting, can you please tell us the story again how these wealthy Ukrainians, jet setting to Miami and New York, are now driving around over here in fancy cars, having fulfilled their life's ambition to live in a tent in Gormanston. And that we will have no hope of them ever returning to their former jet-setting lifestyles due to the fact that they are now getting 200 quid a week into their paw.

That was a great story. I liked that one.

Yeah, sure who would want to return to their previous lifestyle with jaunts to the likes of South Beach, Miami when they can come here instead and stay in a tent right beside Gormanston beach, listening to the wind whistling through the tent and a nice sunny 10 degrees outside. Laughing at the thought of all the gobsh1tes over in 40 degree sunshine.

We'll be stuck with them for good. I heard they are even getting them tents with zipped doors!!!

I brought clothes to an elderly couple in City West a few weeks ago . They were from near Mariopol and had fled with nothing . Thankfully our wider family had clothes and shoes for them . They needed blister plasters and creams too

They literally arrived the night before with absolutely nothing . Had you seen them the next day they wouldn’t look destitute clothed in well used but still good M and S jumpers etc

while I understand your frustration at the Government and NGOs who are dealing with this you are wrong in persistently thinking all refugees are here for the money . They absolutely are not all here so they can live in tents and daily miss home

I just wish you could meet some and hear them out . To ensure privacy I wont go into details but I wish you could meet and hear the family we support .

I hope you dont mind me saying this but your posts are getting more more concentrated on those who are taking the pee and less empathetic towards those who genuinely need our help