Kilkenny GAA Thread

I would go for Henry and then Lyng myself. Henry due to his year in Galway and Shamrocks connection but will he do a Cahill last year and turn it down if offered. Personally i dont think Henry would turn it down. As for Lyng he has just won the U20 and has experience at senior level. I think he would be ideal if we needed a major rebuild. As for the Camogie Management team in all respect to them its a totally different game. The current backroom team have to be looked at but i am totally against a joint manager approach. That has not worked anywhere. Other than this your looking at DJ and Eddie.

TBF to Brian he has left us in a far better position than if he had left us after 2016 or 2019. Whoever comes in has the nucleous of a team capable of winning an All Ireland. Retiremnets and players travelling may alter this though.

TBH for KK hurling 8 years next year will be a barren spell.

great post and it is something that crossed my mind. I dont think the best financial candidate should get the job but also i dont think we should be breaking the bank. Its a very fine balancing act.

I don't know about Henry, I'd still have a big question mark about him as a manager. I know he did well with Ballyhale, but, that team had some outstanding players for a club team. I wouldn't have been that impressed with his management of Galway this year, the team really only performed against Limerick, very poor in Leinster final and Cork really should have beaten us. Cody got the absolute best out of Kilkenny this year, hard to see anyone get anymore out of this Kilkenny team. Limerick are the benchmark now, similar to Kilkenny 10-15 years ago, Kilkenny need to improve again next year ( as do all teams) if they are to stop this Limerick team.

Martin Fogarty my preference. If he's interested..

Not sure. I would have thought a little younger ... Have no idea what difference that makes though?

Tallis Purcell and moylan overage as far as I know

Kilkennyboy

I am 73 years old and I have supported Limerick all my life. I heartily agree with you we are well resourced now.

However, until about 15 years ago we had the most hopelessly funded county board in the country. We had to have Home/Away matches with Clare time and again to try to bolster the empty coffers. Even the poorest Clare teams, over the decades, have always proved hard to beat in Ennis. Gallingly after beating us there they often collapsed spectacularly in the next round. I might mention that Tipp went to Ennis back in '86 and lost by a point, as we also did there the same year. The following year Clare returned the compliment and went to Thurles and a draw with Tipp ensued. Clare asked them to play the replay in Ennis. As Cork and Limerick pitches were both unavailable, it should have been an easy decision. However, Tipperary correctly opted to play the game in Killarney, despite the huge inconvenience involved for their supporters and were not seen in Ennis, until '18, when the Round Robin Format forced them to go there. I might also add that Cork also did H/A with Waterford, back in the day. However after defeats in Walsh Park in '67 and '74, when they ended with 14 men each day, they stopped going there too. Kilkenny themselves had a H/A arrangement with Wexford, but one or other of the sides thought better and for decades Croke Park became the automatic venue for their meetings.

I think it is also significant that no real Home based organisation has sponsored the Limerick teams ,except Maddens Milk, a small dairy, when sponsorship came out first. At one stage we even had to get the Mid Western Health Board to sponsor our team. My point is we may be benefitting from JPs largesse now, but for years we certainly were underfunded in relation to Cork, Tipp Kerry or indeed most of the main counties.

Anyway, I honestly think that if all this sponsorship had been stopped Fifteen years ago this Limerick team would still be top of the pile now. As Mick Mackey said of his great side of the thirties and early forties, 'a great crop of talented players just all appeared at the one time'. This phenomenon was just repeated about 85 years later.

I see where galway are having a fundraiser tomorrow at the races and Henry and Mark landers are guest speakers. I'd be shocked if Henry gave up galway to come back to kk.

Derek Lyng looks in pole position for the job but there will be pressure on straight away. We see in other sports it's doesn't always work out although Tyrone broke a trend with their management. There will definitely be people who would prefer to let the dust settle for a few years.Some of the lads in the frame also know they wouldn't get the kinda money which would be available in other counties so this could deter some.It might be no harm if Peter Barry and Rice stayed with the u20s if Derek did take it. I would hope to see someone like herity brought in as a goal keeping coach for a start. I Actually think we're a poorly coached team and its a testament to the lads that we pushed Limerick with all their quality coaching and resources and that would have to give us supporters optimis.Our puckouts are atrocious a lot of the time and I'd be suprised if we ever worked on puckouts. Hopefully the county board had an idea this was Brian's last year and they had some kind of plan in place but I'd be suprised if they had any sort of foward thinking.

Ideally we need an interview process and not just give it to this lad or that and hope for the best. Club starting this weekend so the county board need to get their finger out.There should be no Stone left unturned. I heard where Lyng had to push hard for a second s&c person to help John Murphy at u20. There's no doubt they don't like spending money but things like this shouldn't be questioned.

I'm looking foward to the club this weekend and I'll try get to a few. I know a few clubs will be down lads for a few rounds because they're in America. I heard mikey butler picked up a serious enough injury the other night. Hopefully it's not too serious. Someone here from olg might know more.

Finance isn't deciding all ireland's but certainly can't be disputed alot of top teams are well resourced, 2 small things come to remember after Dublin got ambushed by Donegal in 2014 they brought in a basketball coach from DCU and his remit was basically help break down blanket defences, with Limerick told from a good source if any of their players need to go to Santry with injuries its usually from a helicopter journey from Adare Manor, this stuff would be out of reach for other counties.

Great interview and insight form Eddie and Mick Fennelly

Confirmed that Fennelly leaving Offaly now alright.....Thought he would get another year as he's after making good progress with a young group and Offaly were having big problems before he came in but infairness he's leaving on a high.

Himself and Eddie Brennan in contention for Waterford job if rumours are true.

He got them out of the Christy Ring Cup in his 2nd year and was very unlucky not to qualify for the Mcdonagh Cup final only losing out on scoring difference in the end....Has raised them from being on a big low, got everyone pulling in the one direction with a very young crop.

Yeah Jimmy Walsh has to step down as his 5 years is up. Conor Denniffe is off to headquarters by all accounts. All the 5 year terms are up so none of the current executive can continue in their current roles so there will hopefully be a shake up.

The rumour is that Ned Quinn is making a move to come back and reassume the roll of chairman. Usually the county board is just a big turn of moving chairs every 5 years.

Either way even if there was a new county board executive elected later in the year they won't be choosing our next manager.

Hawkwing. I was responding to cobservations made about the Limerick. I would also that Limerick County Board also 'milk' recent successes well. The charge for the Banquet after was 150 Euro and 800 of us thought it was worth it. After all when will we see a 3 in a row again. Large pictures of the team and other memorabilia etc are also commanding big money. Other companies like Cavanaghs in Charleville have also rowed in behind them It is a classic case of everyone wanting to know a winner, whereas as when we were down nobody wantedu h to do with us. Remember too lads had a more advanced approach going way back to the days that Fr Tommy Murphy and your excellent Co Board put superior structures in place for the development of young hurlers.

Most other successful counties have been ahead of the frame at some time or other.

A positive outlook then... 👀👀

Loughnane is some piece of work, but he isn't wrong about the ego.

Ger is still around.

I think its only 4 overage next year. Tallis,Purcell,moylan and hickey. Beirne and Hughes were injured this year and will be an addition next year. Danny glennon and a few others will hopefully be thereabouts.

I heard Derek refused the senior job so that probably throws a little spanner in the works. I hope the county board have their finger out and a committee set up interviewing candidates.Rumours of Eddie and fennelly being linked with the Waterford job and dublin and Laois also have vacancies.

IMO anyone who has aspirations to manage the Kilkenny Senior Hurling team will not turn down the job. They may never get another chance. Fr Tommy was there for over 20 years and Brian 24 years.