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Russia's latest attacks on Odesa should be met with specific retaliation by NATO or the USA: (a) the objective would be to avert mass famine in Africa and Mid-East; (b) no-fly zone within 100km of Odesa and other Ukrainian ports; (c) any attacks on this area will be met with destruction of the bases from which they come. All to be done in the name of getting grain out safely and explicit warnings to the Russian ambassadors in Western capitals. Make it explicit that this is a limited measure and will result in no damage to Russia unless Russia directly provokes it.

Sooner or later this monster will have to be confronted.

Lots of ammo goes up

Russia are extremely untrustworthy. Almost as untrustworthy as the UN are stupid. Why would the SG come out with such triumphalist rubbish knowing full well what Russia are. His words were almost a congratulating pat on the back for Putin. He's a idiot, as are his UN compatriots who are nothing more than a bunch of self indulgent blowhards. They can't even expel Russia despite them commiting genocide.

There are a couple of videos on social media of cruise missiles approaching Odesa this morning. I imagine it would be relatively straightforward to ascertain what direction they came from.

Also, the idea of a false flag operation by Ukraine or its allies seems preposterous. What would they hope to gain by attacking Odesa with missiles? Countries rarely, if ever, engage in false flag attacks right in the middle of an actual war.

If Ukraine could advance and threaten Crimea their negotiating position would be much stronger.

Has it been said that the deal for grain export is off, I haven't heard that it is or is it just a given?

What did the missiles hit?

When was the first shipment of grain due to be exported?

Definitely not off, but people are quite baffled as to why Russia attacked Odesa a day after the agreement was signed (the dictator having a temper tantrum perhaps?).

Did they say something like they considered Crimea part of Russia so an attack on Crimea would be like an attack on Moscow and would warrant a full mobilization.

So they're just wafflers. They condemn this or endorse that but have no impact on anything. And non of these chancers are pulling minimum wage or doing this voluntarily. Guterres earns 250k a year and for what, to give horseshit speeches where he looks like a clown the next day. Or jumping on a private jet to go massage Putins ego. Useless organisation with utterly useless people. At least the WHO has some value.

Israel regularly attack targets in Syria, I lived there for several years, and I can vouch for that, even if its denied or not confirmed by Israel, which is standard practice for them. Assads forces on the ground know very well who is doing the attacking, I can assure you.

Very true. And, by the way, Jordan. You don't hear much about that. I believe I was in Damascus around the time you were. I remember the absolute hate the Syrians had for Isreal. Every paper map of the world had Isreal scribbled out and they painted Israeli flags on the pavement to that everyone could walk on the flag.

In Jordan, at the river Jordan, there were two guys acting the Mick at the "Barberpole" that's stuck in the middle of the river to denote the border between Jordan and Israel. ( by the way, the River Jordan is quite narrow. You could almost jump from bank to bank in some places).

Two Israeli border guards waded over to them, AR-15's at the ready, and dragged their loud American asses into Israel from the Jordanian side! The Jord guards just watched. The two guys were no doubt deported, unless of course it was a staged entrance. Which has happened.

Israel make up their own rules. I wouldn't be surprised if Mossad have their fingers in the events at the peripherals of the war in Ukraine.