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The Antonovsky bridge, looks like they are taking it out.

Why is Turkish President engaging with that raging lunatic? I thought Turkey was help Ukraine

Turkey will help Turkey. Play all sides.

But the Turks know their history with Russia. A weaker Russian military is good for Turkey. Russian money is also good for Turkey.

Again-

Interesting story on Twitter about how Russian "journalists" (lol) were going to report a supposed successful attack on HIMARS equipment in Ukraine. This 'attack' was to be filmed in Belarus this coming Friday with the cooperation of Belarussian authorities. Unfortunately for them, someone has leaked part of the correspondence between the journalists and the military, presumably putting the kibosh on the whole propaganda stunt.

It's a simple case of of they target Russia with another countries weapons Kiev will lose international support ,and the fact Russia still has it's gas and oil flowing through and around Europe they still have plenty of power over eu states

The language Lavrov is using "no proposals from Ukraine that any serious person could take seriously" is obnoxious beyond belief. Though alas all too believable from him.

This sounds like victim blaming and something written by RT.

The Minsk agreement while supposedly ended the war in the Donbas, Ukraine Knew the Russians could not be trusted. Their little green men that popped up in Crimea. So yeah they fcuking armed themselves because sooner or later the Russians would be looking for more. And then more again. Russia is a bully and would never stop. They want USSR 2.0

A load of nonsense + a rewrite of history.

Russia just lies and distorts everything all the time, they think it is being clever. That statement by Lavrov [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62231936] is just the latest and its so tiring and dispiriting if you waste your time & try and follow it all. It doesn't matter what Putin/Lavrov said in the past or say now, watching what Russia does is more useful.

The aim of the war, once begun, was transparently to grab the whole country from day 1.

They went straight after Kyiv, to either decapitate or evict the current govt. and put a Putin Puppet in there, which Russia would then have declared was the legitimate Ukrainian govt. (vs the "Nazis" who had been removed). They would have tried that even if Zelensky fled + escaped the trap, or there was an attempt by others to organise and direct resistance from elsewhere in Ukraine.

I bet they would then have had their 2 "People's Republics" in Ukraine applaud the new Putin Puppets, and scouted about at the UN for anyone else they could cajole or bribe or bully to recognise Ukraine's new handpicked Putin-friendly leadership.

edit: That clever plan failed, and now Russia's military have an awful messy & bloody struggle on their hands to try and deliver Putin what he wanted (he seems to be, imo, a man who has not been balked or had someone tell him "no" for a very long time).

Absolute drivel. Regurgitation of Russian propaganda which accepts Russian interests entirely and denies Ukranians right to exist as a sovereign country.

Ukraine implemented as much of Minsk as they could do. They took all actions within their own power to comply. But Russia did not withdraw its forces or support for the separatists so Ukraine could not fully implement Minsk when its authority did not cover its territory.

Russia was already in clear violation of Budapest. Zero evidence it viewed Minsk any differently.

Russia has zero right to dictate what blocs Ukraine can join and as we have seen without NATO protection or assistance Russia would just waltz into Ukraine and install a puppet regime. Every action it has taken has shown it wants Ukraines resources in its orbit and if it cant get it through corruption economic warfare and threats of warfare it will try to take it by force.

I cant believe you are still spouting this propaganda when Putin and Lavrov have already pulled the rug out from all the useful idiots who went to bat with lies about nato or denazification when he talked about taking back what was theirs

They actually after signing Minsk 2 trying to add clauses that Ukraine couldnt join NATO. Of course that wasnt in the agreed text but Russian propaganda still lies it is a violation of it if Ukraine join.

Lavrov claimed in public Russia didnt violate Budapest by invading Crimea as Budapest only had 1 clause about nukes. Budapest has 6 clauses!

There is no lie they wont tell.

This is how the gangster fascists view agreements. They will only be stopped by force.