Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

And back to where we started:

'All Trans women are men. Men. menmen. Nothing will stop them being men. They are manly manly biological men. In frocks.'

Therefore posting information about men's performance at elite level is 100% relevant. - as long as you completely dismiss the effect of hormone blockers.

Which you continually do.

It's such a strange position as it undermines the whole "puberty blockers are bad bad bad" trope.

Either hormone blockers work or they do not.

If they do not (meaning elite trans women athletes are 100% biologically male and perform as such i.e. your apparent position) then logically puberty blockers do not work and there is nothing to complain/worry about.

If puberty blockers do work ... then so do other hormone blockers - can you see where this is going ?

Sorry Wibbs, but as a historian I have to say that has to be some of the biggest load of pick and mix, out of context, rubbish I have read apart from on certain 'patriot' twitter accounts.

Rich 'Medieval' Women were culturally barred from physical labour - this was to demonstrate how rich her family was. How do you expect them to gain muscle mass in those circumstances? The 'Medieval' commoner, on the other hand, was primarily engaged in physical labour - women too!

What exactly does 'medieval' mean in your post? Are you talking about a Europe under the Feudal System - which is generally what people mean? Well, neither Ireland, Scotland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc etc had the Feudal System. If a place had not been part of the Roman Empire it developed along different cultural lines - in a European context that was usually less misogynistic lines.

Are you going to argue that a male monk was physically stronger than a Shield Maiden simply because of being a man? Monks were involved in food production so did do physical labour - shield maidens came from farming families and also trained extensively to do battle. I know who I would put my hack silver on to win.

The inhabitants of Gaelic Ireland were noted, by the people trying to conquer them, as being particularly healthy and physically fit. Including the women.

It was also a society far far removed, in cultural terms, from the Feudal Medieval.

Women had significant rights, wealth was not displayed by keeping them inside and docile. In point of fact Women controlled the flow of money - and could legally veto her husband's decisions, divorce him, take lovers, own land, ... and fight. I could point you to several reports from Tudor tax collectors explaining to Elizabeth I's administrators (who were also experienced soldiers - we are literally talking about people like Drake, Raleigh, Bingham, Mountjoy) why they ran away from Gráinne Ní Mháille as she was a) closer to intercepting them than her husband, and b) far more dangerous then her husband in a fight. And he was, in modern parlance, the kind of man who would fight with a feather. Both her husbands were. But she was the wealthy pirate. And Gaelic Ireland had no issue with that. How de we know? Because the English were shocked at how she was respected and considered a spokesperson for her people... as if she was equal to a man.

But you would have us believe that any man could have beaten this experienced sea captain, with a fleet under her command, who is recorded as fighting (successfully) on land and sea at the head of her often significant army numbering thousands because 'medieval'.

You have taken the cultural/dietary conditions from one group of people (Asian - but which 'Asians', it's not clear) and extrapolated that to be global. Then made an argument about 'Medieval' society without clarifying what exactly you mean by that term.

Completely ignoring that many many cultures across the ages have accepted that there are people who's gender does not align with their biological sex.

If you are going to attempt to use 'history' as some kind of justification for the GC position kindly do not insult us by trotting out some mish mash of out of context, faux history based on ill defined terms and vague references to large geographic regions that were in reality culturally diverse.

BTW I can supply the names of women military leaders from various parts of China and India, not to mention Onna- Mush from Japan.