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When is it appropriate to physically attack someone?

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  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Many points really.

    The first is the self confidence that comes with knowing you can and likely will win most fights. I am not sure if you ever watched The Avengers but a character speaking to Bruce Banner put it well when she said "Here we are in a room full of people dying to get in the fight - and then there is you who knows he will win just about all of them and he wants only to avoid them". Many of the people I see getting into fights do not know how to fight let alone win. Their ego demands that they fight therefore. Like Bruce Banner however knowing with deep certainty that I likely will - means I do not need to. I have nothing to prove to myself - to them - or my partners.

    The second is fear and safety though. As I said my first move in any such situation is to get out, back down, retreat. Get myself and anyone I care about to safety. But is that always possible? I need to know that should I ever get into a situation I can not get out of - that I am ready to deal with it. Much like the americans when they talk about defending their gun ownership. Often they use the line "better to have it and never need it - then once need it and not have it".

    The third though is the sheer level of physical, mental, and emotional health studying martial arts has brought to my life. As well as discipline and humility. I remember my first days at Brazilian Jujitsu for example and trust me there is a lot of humility to be found in being put sparring against a teen age girl as a grown man and for that little girl to proceed to essentially turn you into a rag doll that she can do anything to and you can pretty much do nothing to stop it.

    You say most of the fights you got into were for your ego's sake? That would be the point I was making in the post you replied to. My ego has no such need any more. And the more I become capable of fighting (I don't think I will ever stop learning or reach a point I feel I am done) the less my ego has any power over me or my decisions.

    So no. Violence will always be the last approach for me in any context. I can use it if it is needed. But it will always be the last resort. In defending myself. In defending my ego. In parenting. In anything really. Violence comes last. But if it comes - I can bring it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,260 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    If I’m being attacked or harmed

    if a family member is being attacked / harmed

    if any loved one is being attacked / harmed

    if someone is attempting to steal money or possessions , or damage property…

    violence proportionate to the said acts you encounter…is ok by me.

    if somebody comes at me with a knife in a quiet street I’m under no hesitation that I’d happily end that persons life in order to preserve and defend mine…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,288 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    But your mouth and actions can get you in to trouble. Especially your mouth - only so much a person can take.

    Old saw:

    There are no bones in the tongue, but it often broke a man's head.

    Post edited by Esel on

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    Wtf is wrong with you....

    The only time to throw a punch is in self defense, you can restrain someone without acting like a complete twat, if they turn around and hit you, hit you back, but the cops are the first people to call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,250 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    ehhh..... i did say there's behavior that calls for a punch.



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  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The question is WHAT behaviour calls for a punch?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,250 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Why you so interested in what I have to say anyways?

    There's literally a thousand things some one could do to warrant a punch. Crossing the line, calling your misses a whore, putting it up to you, I could go on. There's nearly 8 billion people on this planet. Alot like to cross lines.



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not that interested in what you have to say. I just thought your post sounded clever at first but didn't actually answer the question and it bothered me a little bit. Sorry I maybe need to back off a little bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,250 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Riiiiiiiiight.

    Maybe that's a punchable offense? Lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭6541


    Back in the day one used to see loads of fights in pubs. It was very common. Why infact, mass brawls were common. I believe if you feel threatened go and attack first, first mover and all that. However one must be aware of levels of violence. A slap in the jaw is different to repeat kicks to the head.



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  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can't see anything in that list moving me to turn to violence. I can't even think why it might. Though at the same time phrases like "crossing the line" and "putting it up to you" are quite vague. So I guess context really is everything on the specifics of what any of those actually mean.

    But the middle one - simple name calling directed towards me or anyone around me - certainly would not move me personally to violence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    if someone disrespects your aul wan, you should pin him to the wall and piss on his legs and then admonish him by saying, "fuckin' disrespect my aul wan!"

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Christine Neville


    What if you're at work? Let's say your a security guard in Dunnes. Don't you then just have to take it when they threaten you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    This. I think its crazy that you can assault somebody by punching, stamping or otherwise injuring and you get immunity because it happened on a patch of grass whilst wearing your jersey.

    I have seen physical altercations that would definitely have led to arrests and charges just dismissed because its a GAA game. Its the last taboo. Imagine a lad ringing the guards and saying he got a black eye and sprained ankle and it was all on camera. When the guards ask where it happened and if he replied the pitch, he would be laughed out of it, shunned by the team and likely mocked by the community. Unreal double standards.



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